Seth on Sound, The Great Pyramid, Sumeria and UFOs

Barry Carter ( bcarter@igc.apc.org )
Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:45:13 -0700

Dear Friends,

Due to popular demand here is:

Unpublished Seth on Sound and Great Pyramid

604th Session January 12, 1972 9:19 p.m. Wednesday

(Notes on an abortive projection attempt; I lay down for a nap after supper
on Friday evening, Jan 14. I used the bedroom in apartment four. We had
been working long hours on our own, and I had been putting in overtime at
Artistic, so I was quite tired. I dozed for a few moments upon laying
down, then came awake to find myself with the unmistakable feeling of
floating halfway to the ceiling of the bedroom.)

(The sensation was quite definite, and quiet strange. For I still felt my
body against the bed - I lay face up, covered by a blanket - as though my
body was pasted to the bed. In other words, I floated in the air, bed and
all, quite pleasantly. There was no fear or panic. Instead I hoped to
continue the experience into something greater.)

(Shortly after I became aware, Jane began to do the dishes. The geography
of our kitchen in apartment four is such that noise can evidently seep
through a closet wall in the bedroom and so is quite easily heard. Jane
made noise handling the dishes, I heard the water run, etc. In addition
she turned on her radio. Even though she kept it on low volume, I heard
it. I told myself these things would not distract me. I lay without
moving a muscle, trying to encourage further developments without
straining. The floating free sensation continued but I wasn’t able to
develop it further.)

(I nearly always use suggestions re projection when I lay down. I believe
my tiredness tonight helped the state. Now I sent Jane messages that she
would leave me undistracted, but nothing developed. The feeling lasted for
well over a minute, I would estimate; finally it began to diminish or fade
out, and I fell asleep again. Upon writing this, I now recall that
immediately upon laying down I drifted into a rather complete, if brief,
dreaming state - but I cannot recall the dream. But I went form the dream
into the projection.)

(Peculiarly, I had no feeling of being detached from my physical body -
that is, I didn’t feel I was bodiless, hovering above it; I had taken the
bed up with me, you see. I felt the bed and I were several feet above the
floor. I wanted to try turning over astrally, and I wanted to try reaching
up toward the ceiling astrally, to see if I could touch it. I didn’t move
at all, though, because of the noise form the kitchen. I managed to hold
the state while considering the kitchen interference, but was concerned
lest any attempt at movement on my part would break the spell entirely.)

(The session this evening, Wednesday, developed rather spontaneously out of
several factors that combined almost effortlessly. The recent Sumari
developments involving both of us played a part. So did my studying of
photos of Baalbek, the first century AD Roman ruins in Lebanon. The
enormity of the stones in these buildings left me amazed; I didn’t see how
blocks weighing 1200 tons could be moved without machinery, let alone
fitted into place over twenty feet up on foundations, etc. The pictures
were truly awe-inspiring. I came across them in one of the books on
ancient history that Shirley Bickford, one of Jane's students, brought for
us to consult on the very ancient civilization, Sumeria, in Mesopotamia,
from 4000 to 2000 BC, I believe without consulting dates.)

(Jane and I hadn’t believed there was any connection between Jane’s
Sumarian development, and Sumer, since the Sumari, as explained in recent
sessions, had never been physical in our terms. Tonight’s session went into
this, to our surprise.)

(Shortly after supper this evening, Tom Milligan, a former student of
Jane’s brought us a copy of Saga Magazine for Dec. 71. It contained an
article by our friend Otto Binder, entitled "UFO's Own Earth and All
Mankind!" This article touched upon many ideas we are interested in, and
quoted astrophysicist Fred Hoyle, among others, re the ownership of the
race idea. We spend some time discussing it. We had no opinion
particularly, beyond remembering that according to Seth the whole question
of the race of man and its origins, and doubts concerning theories of
evolution, was vastly more complicated than was generally believed. Seth’s
ideas of time give us quite a different approach to these ideas also.)

(In the NY Times tonight I read an article, with pictures, of the Mars
probe currently underway by our Mariner spacecraft. Dr. Carl Sagan of
Cornell University was quoted in the article. Dr. Sagan was also quoted in
Otto’s article, regarding the ancient Sumerian - Akkadian legends and
UFO’s, too our surprise. The question that has always bothered me is
brought up - why does our history only go back five or 6000 years ago, when
Homo Sapiens appeared some 50 000 years ago as an established species?)

(In addition, I have always doubted the block and tackle idea used in
constructing such massive, enormous wonders as Baalbek. With this goes my
questions concerning the ability of sculptors to do the marvelously
intricate carving adorning all of these buildings, on such an enormous
scale. I have always wondered just how it was possible, with the few tools
then available, according to our history, to do this work. It seems beyond
the tools scope. I would delight in seeing it duplicated today, using
identical stone, tools, etc., with time trials.)

(Thus, all of these points came together tonight and resulted in the
session. In the beginning Jane’s pace was rather slow, her eyes closed
often. The session was held in her study in apartment four.)

Seth: "Now good evening."

Rob: "Good evening, Seth.""

Seth: "The message for tonight is: you are not owned.

"Now, your human stock did not all originate solely from your planet. I
never told you that it did. In that respect your ancestry is indeed
varied. Some of the information given in my own book, by inference, should
have made that clean."

(By coincidence - Seth’s book has just come back to us from Prentice Hall
for us to go over the copy editor’s suggestions before it is set in
galleys, which we will see in April. But we haven’t had time to reread the
manuscript.)

Seth: "Evolution, as it is thought of, had many different aspects in those
terms. There were three or four beginning points. Do you follow me?"

Rob: "Yes."

Seth: "There were then visits from others in other planetary systems. In
that regard this is quite natural. Your own relative isolation is far from
the average. The legends, many of them, therefore, were of course
chronicles of quite legitimate physical events, describing phenomena for
example for which natives had no adequate vocabulary. They were forced to
describe what they saw by making comparisons with objects and events
already familiar to them."

(Jane’s pace, as Seth, was now quite a bit faster.) "Some such visitors,
in your terms, were more evolved than others. All, however, would appear
as superhuman in contrast to those civilizations that encountered them.
There were some deliberate experiments, that were in fact far more
dangerous to the experimenters, always in which the experimenters tried, in
one way or another, tired to advance man’s knowledge.

(9:29) "It is not nearly as simple as that, however. There is not a
one-line development. By the time that feasible inter-system space travel
is practical, the psychic abilities are developed to a very high degree.
One is necessary for the other. Therefore, it became much more feasible to
approach earthmen during their dream state, when their natural fear
reactions were somewhat minimized, and where the danger to the visitors was
far less."

(It was so hot in the room that I asked Seth to wait while I turned the
heat off. I also opened a kitchen window. Jane sat quietly in trance.)

Seth: "Out of body encounters were used as a matter of course. The
visitor could appear and disappear then without fear of pursuit.
Civilizations were often warned in advance of natural disasters that were
apparent to the visitors with their greater viewpoint.

"Such warnings were either given in the dream state of the earthmen, for
the reasons given or often in some secluded place, for often the visitors
would be attacked. During these eras, in your terms, the speakers often
acted as go-betweens. Often warnings of disaster were not followed. Some
warnings were misunderstood, then, as punishment by the gods of ‘moral
misdoing.’

(9:36) "The whole moral code idea was originally tailored for the current
scene as it was encountered, told in terms that the natives could understand.

"The pyramids, the huge boulders etched out (I think Seth refers here to
Baalbek; I didn’t interrupt to ask.) All of this was done in one way or
another through the use of, a knowledge of, both coordination points in
space (described by Seth in his own book) and the use of sound. (Also
described to some degree.) There were instruments that released sound, and
directed it in the same way, say, that a laser beam does with light.

"Drawings of some of these exist in primitive Sumerian cave renditions, but
the drawings are misinterpreted, the instrument is taken for another. No
one knows how to use the instruments. There are a few in existence, in
your terms."

(The Sumerians were a pre-Semitic race inhabiting the lower Euphrates
valley; their empire dated from about the 4th millennium BC. They were
probably the Biblical Shinar. Their country was called Sumer, etc.)

Seth: "The Sumarians (spelled) left the memory of their existence in the
Sumerian culture (spelled. This is the connection Jane and I hadn’t
believed existed.) They initiated it, though they did not direct all of
its activities, nor were they responsible for the distortions of their
teachings that often resulted. There is a difference then between Sumarian
and the culture in the books. Your Sumarian were behind the culture - they
initiated that particular civilization.

"I will be clear. Your Sumarian showed earth people at that time how to
communicate, how to initiate crafts, gave them all the fundamentals upon
which a civilization then could be based. The Sumarians, you Sumarians
however, were not of human stock at that time.

"Now. Your Sumarians have become human stock in those terms at other
times. it is not a point of them trying to invade a native stock. They
simply understood the nature of individual existences. Therefore, they are
able to choose from various physical systems those in which they would like
to have experience.

"They maintain their inner knowledge and integrity, and are born within any
given system. They always use their native abilities and talents to help
the system, working very strongly in psychic or creative endeavors.

"I do not necessarily mean that they are consciously aware of their
affiliation. This is an individual matter. They are often inventors,
always then involved with the initiation of new ideas or discoveries. All
of this follows inner patterns that are specifically human in your terms.
Humanity therefore has its own characteristics, and no ‘outside influence’
can go counter to these, but must work with them.

(9:50) "When it seems that great discoveries come, and then are lost
through the ages, perhaps to be rediscovered, it simply means that man’s
own nature was not in harmony with them, could not use them properly.
Whenever aggressiveness became too misguided it automatically caused the
loss of powers or discoveries that could be used to destroy the planet.

"This is a natural aspect, the self-protective principle that operates
within earth life as you know it. On occasion discoveries were given
before their time, and promptly lost, only to be rediscovered ages later.

"The problem comes when you try to categorize consciousness or being. The
out of body state, in greater terms, is a far more natural state than in
the body. You adopt and make a body. You do this now without even knowing
that you do so, but a body can be made from the camouflage of any system,
constructed easily when you know how to do it.

"Space suits are, therefore, and inadequate, clumsy memory of an inner
ability to clothe the inner self with whatever camouflage is at hand, to
merge with the elements of an environment in such a way that you become a
living part of it.

"The Sumarians - Your Sumerians (spelled) did this when they initiated
the culture spoken about in your books. Their sense of time is completely
different, as however your own is innately. It is difficult to explain
this, but keeping in touch with a civilization for several thousand years
of your earth time, would entail perhaps the same amount of time and effort
a man might take in his profession over a period of five to ten years, so
the relativity of time is important in that context.

"You may take your break."

(10:01 - Jane’s pace had been good, her trance good also. I had trouble in
some instances deciding in the copy which spelling to use - Sumerian or
Sumarian; in some instances my quick decisions were in error, I cam to
believe as I typed up this copy, so as can be seen I made changes. Jane
read them over, and agrees that this copy is now as Seth meant it to be.)

(I told Jane at bread that I needed a capsule definition of Sumari and she
said that last night in ESP class Seth had commented that the Sumari was a
"federation of consciousness." We get the duplicated transcript of each
ESP class the following week, so we do not have the record for last night’s
ESP class session, for 1/11, yet.)

(During break I referred again to the photos of the massive ruins of
Baalbek in one of the books Shirley Bickford lent us. I explained to Jane
my feeling that the amazingly intricate stone carving, particularly the
bas-relief work, seemed beyond the abilities of the hammer and chisel.
Jane broke in to tell me that this carving was done by small instruments
that used inaudible sound waves: these radiations softened the stone, she
said, so the work could be performed. She didn’t know where this data came
from. If from Seth it wasn’t obvious to her.)

(Resume at 10:20)

Seth: "Now - Are you ready for me?

Rob: "Yes."

Seth: "Basically - in your terms now - there is no such thing as an
isolated, independent earth stock, in that consciousness did not suddenly
erupt from the physical behavior or characteristics of your planet, or in
any other.

"As you know, consciousness comes first, and then forms the physical
materializations of it. Those consciousnesses who picked physical
materialization choose to operate under certain conditions that then appear
as the natural characteristics of a species to you.

"They accept certain characteristics, and while experiencing existence
within them must follow along the roads they’ve chosen. Hence earlier I
spoke of the natural bent of humanity, of all those, then, who choose
existence within you particular planetary existence.

"Consciousness is not local, and it never was.

"You have always been Sumari. This simply means that your consciousness has
certain bents of its own, interests and abilities and specializations. The
word Sumari characterizes a certain kind of consciousness simply for means
of identification in your terms.

"I told you once that there are clumps of consciousness. This does not
mean that consciousness is not individual and separate, but that it also
has a great ability to congregate, to reach out in affiliation, to share
knowledge and experience, and to combine itself in ever-changing patterns
while still retaining its basic identity and integrity.

(10:29) "To have explained this to you when we began our sessions would
not have been possible. (Pause.) Now give us a moment. (Long pause.)

"Space and time are constructions of ideas. They do not appear physically,
as say a table or a chair, yet they seem to define both a table and a
chair, in that you cannot easily conceive of a piece of furniture, for
example, existing except in the medium of space and time.

"The ideas of space and time are constructed in different ways in various
systems. In some they appear as natural phenomena, for example as various
classifications of objects, in some as variations of sound or light. You
find it exceedingly difficult to consider existence at all without space
and time, yet basically consciousness is independent of both.

"The ideas of space and time emerge only when consciousness adopts
camouflage, only when it becomes wedded, in other words, with a physical
type existence. Time and space are both creations of consciousness, in
other words, and vehicles of its expression.

"Matter is a classification. As explained in my book, various levels of
concentration can be used as platforms leading you out of focus, into other
time schemes. Time is like color. You are merely focusing upon one hue.
(10:39)

"Your present civilization and the ‘old’ Sumerian (spelled) civilization,
exist at once, then simultaneously, but to speak to you about these I must
use a time sequence you understand. If it were understood that these
civilizations exist at once, then you would not be so surprised that they
‘were’ able to build structures that you cannot build in your now.

"Your now and their now exists now.

"In the present physical area in which it seems to you that a physical
civilization once existed, that civilization still exists. You cannot meet
it though you stand at the same spot, because of the ideas of time that
separate you. The civilization in flower, and the ruins, coexist. The
living ancient Sumerians pass the modern tourists without seeing them, even
as the tourists walk in the middle of the old Sumerian marked places and
see only ruins.

"Much of this could be explained n mathematical equations that presently
escape you. Your own consciousness is contemporary with the ancient
Sumerians (spelled) as well as with your current selves in your terms.

(10:46) "Think of countries existing simultaneously now on your planet.
There are differences in language and culture, and it takes a certain
amount of earth time to travel through space to visit them. In the same
way all times exist at once, with their peculiar customs, and in your terms
within the same space that you know.

"You have learned how to make roads through space, but not through time on
a conscious level. There are intersections n time and space, however, that
you have not recognized. I am speaking in your terms, hopefully to make
this simpler. (Pause.) Times exist then as surely as places. You think
of time as moving toward something, and of space as relatively stable.

"It does not occur to you then that you can get to times, as you can get to
places. (Pause at 10:53.) All of this is highly difficult to explain.
I do not mean for example that time, each moment, is a finished and done
thing to be visited. While time is not moving in a particular direction,
in your terms, each moment explodes outwards, or expands outward in all
directions.

"Space and time as you understand them ripple through each other. They do
not behave as you think they do, however. Presently you understand your
existence only as it intrudes into three dimensions. Its own activity is
in many other dimensions however.

"The Sumari, therefore, appear in or intrude into the three dimensional
system from other dimensions.

"Now you may take a break or end the session as you prefer."

Rob: "We’ll take the break."

(10:58. Jane’s trance had again been very good. Now she talked more about
what she had said at last break, concerning the carving done on stone that
had been softened by instruments employing sound. Only a very
sophisticated instrument was used, she said, to soften the top layer of the
stone so that it was "like frosting which could then be easily carved. The
instrument might have done both the softening and the carving.")

(But first of all," she added as we continued to talk, "either that
instrument or another one was used to isolate the top layer of the stone
from the rest of it so that it wasn’t weakened." We had been discussing
the very intricate and extensive bas-relief carving pictured on the door
frames and lintels of the ruins at Baalbek in this instance - not, say the
in-the-round carving shown on columns, etc.)

(Ack-a-sond-a. This is my phonetic interpretation of a word Jane got
regarding the instrument in question, whether from Seth or not she didn’t
know, as at last break. The sound wasn’t audible to human ears. The
instrument "sort of looked like - I can’t really do it - the shape I’m
getting is of a very rough pistol shape...All you had to do was aim it.
That was just for the small stuff.")

(Resume at 11:15)

Seth: "Now. Matter was manipulated through sound. Some remnants of
spaceships became temples. Some visitors were seen to die, and later seen
again recovered, hence the Egyptians’ sureness that the individual survived
death.

"Because of space travel a visitor might come as a young man, and return
some 40 earth years later still appearing as a young man, leading to the
idea of immortality and eternal youth of the gods."

(Such effects would grow out of the operation of Einstein’s relativity
postulates, etc.)

Seth: "The Olympic gods were perhaps the most amusing of man’s attempt to
deify space travelers. Mixed in here strongly were the ideas of gods
mating with earth women. (Pause.)

"In some respects the over enthusiastic use of the sound was responsible
for the flood mentioned in the Bible, and other literature. It was for
this reason that many attempts were made to warn against the impending
disaster. The use of sound was important at various times in irrigating
dry areas, quite literally by pulling water from a distance.

(11:22) "There were several characteristics that proved difficult,
however. Literally, the sound traveled further often than was intended,
causing consequences not planned upon. Great finesse was important. Sound
was also used after irrigation to speed up the flowering of plants, and to
facilitate transplantation to other areas. it was also utilized for
medicinal purposes in operations, particularly in bone and brain operations.

"Verbal sounds were often stereotyped simply because the effect of sound
was understood in its effects upon the body. Many ideas that are
considered superstitious had a quite legitimate basis, therefore. Sound
was used to locate one also, and to break someone down. It was also used
to locate gas pockets.

"This is a difficult subject. For the movement of heavy tons of rock for
example different techniques, using sound and precise mathematical
calculations were necessary. Many civilizations grew and flourished in
fertile areas simply because the people knew how to make them fertile and
to keep them that way.

"Now you had better end the session. My heartiest regards to you both."

Rob: "Thank you very much, Seth. It’s been extremely interesting. Good
night."

(11:32. Both of us were quite tired. There was much more data available,
we knew, but we were to weary to get it.)

Rob’s Notes:

I read the 604th Session to ESP class on Tuesday, January 7, 1975. After
I’d read some pages, George Rhodes held up a drawing he’d made of the ankh
and asked Seth - who had come through - - if the sound instrument was the
ankh, or at least shaped like it. Like a pistol if held sideways. The
"barrel" would emit the sound ray and the mechanisms and controls would be
in the short arms.

Seth told George he was quite right. The passage will be included in the
class transcript for 1/7/75 that we’ll get next Tuesday, and I’ll try to
remember to attach a copy of it to this session.

ankh (angk), n. (Egypt. ankh life, prosperity.) A T-shaped cross
surmounted by a loop, used as a sacred emblem, symbolizing life; - called
also crux ansata.

I have no scanner, but what follows is a drawing of a perfect, sideways T
with a sort of loop after the top part of a T that is standing up. That
is, draw a T, go to the middle where both lines meet, and draw a loop from
that point upward to meet back at the starting, and then lie the T on its
side. The arms of this instrument were the top part of the T, before the
loop (where Christ’s arms were...sorry) and the barrel was the bottom part
of the T.

605th Session January 17, 1972 9:24pm, Monday

(At 9:20 p.m. Jane said she "felt Seth around. I get a word or two in my
head, so I know he’s here." We had just finished a snack. Jane had read
the last session while she ate. Her pace was quite slow to begin.)

Seth: "Good evening."

Rob: "Good evening, Seth."

Seth: "Now. There are bleedthroughs, however, in space and time as you
think of them. Remember, all times are simultaneous.

"Ideas are not dependent upon preexisting ideas. It is not true to say
that man cannot conceive of something that is not already presented to his
experience in one way or another. Ideas are free of space and time. Only
your determined focus upon your time conceptions closes you off from many
ideas that otherwise are available.

"In your terms the bleedthrough can occur in both past and present, and
idea from today bleeding into the past or the other way around. The ideas
will be actualized or put into a practical structure according to your
attitude toward them.

"Some of the most sophisticated art is from the past. Bleedthroughs result
in its being picked up in your present. Theoretically all of the
information of so -called lost civilizations is quite available to you, as
yours is to them. A closed mind will perceive none of this.

"In terms of experience humanity is working out its problems and challenges
in 20th century terms and in the old Sumerian (spelled) civilization. You
simply choose various kinds of organizational structures and different root
assumptions - all however within the general root assumptions used for
physical existence.

(Pause at 9:35 one of many.) "The old Sumerians (spelled) are singing
their chants now at the same time that Ruburt is trying to translate them
now in your terms. I wish I could impress upon you this great transparency
of time so that you could experience its dimensions. In one way of
speaking you have "not yet" developed the proficiency with sound that would
now allow for the building of structures such as those we described in the
last session.

(Those at Baalbek; the Pyramids, etc.) "Yet those structures exist even
in your now, bleedthrough to make you think and, in other terms, to make
you remember. Many physical structures have existed in your terms in the
same space now occupied by your apartment house. Because of your root
assumptions, however, it is not possible for you to perceive these, nor
those that will come ‘after.’ Yet those structures exist as validly as the
apartment house.

"They share certain coordinates. Knowing those coordinates would, of
course, be very important., but the other realities would still remain
nonrealities to you unless you changed your primary focus. When you do
that there is no need to know what the coordinates are. The inner self is
quite aware of all of this. It picks and chooses the information and data
that is important to you, and makes it available according to your desires.

(9:42) "If you are greatly interested for example in history, then the
inner self brings you the information you need from all of its sources.
Under certain conditions you maybe propelled through the coordinates and
find yourself in the era in which you are interested.

"The conscious intent, however, directs the kind of material you receive.
If you have no interest in such things, no phenomena will occur strong
enough to impress you in the waking state. If is very possible then to be
building a civilization that, in your terms, you are now studying, to be
interpreting ancient records that you yourself may have written, to be
digging up roads that you yourself built.

(9:47) "This applies to your own historical time as well as to others. At
other layer, of course, your civilization is already in the past, as in
others your civilization does not yet exist. The bleedthroughs, however,
mean that each people according to their characteristics, interests and
activities, attract certain ideas both from the future and the past, and
there is constant interaction. Because of this even the past as you think
of it, as I told you, is never done and completed, but constantly changed
by your present and future.

(Long pause from 9:49 to 9:50) "Nabene, then, is changed by your present
actions, even as you are by his seemingly past ones. Your friend, Sue,
said that thee is free action across the board in such cases, and that is
an apt description.

"The pyramids exist as other than physical matter, but it is only as
physical matter that you perceive them. There are several important issues
connected with the pyramids that are not as yet understood. The symbols
upon them often were meant to be sounded. The sound setting up
reverberations. Some of these would automatically open up many doors,
leading to as yet undiscovered secrets - but only for those who understood
the use of sound.

"The Egyptians then were also helped, and told how to construct the pyramids.

"Now you may take your break."

(9:52 Jane’s pace had been slow for the most part, and she said she knew
it. Usually she isn’t aware of her pace, the passage of time, etc.)

(Nabene is the name for a personality of mine that presumably lived as a
male in the first century AD in Jerusalem. We know little about that life:
one evening with Sue Watkins, she also lived then, I managed to tune into
that existence to some degree via images. Seth has referred to Nabene a
few times, and my role as a record keeper and teacher. Sue was one of my
pupils. I was quite a taskmaster, I’m told. Jane and I would like to hold
a session to learn more about this life, including who else we know was
involved then, etc.)

(10:10 Jane said "I’m just sitting here waiting. The connection doesn’t
seem as good tonight.")

("I was wondering if you wanted to bother continuing," I said.)

(I do. It just doesn’t seem as strong..." We continued to wait. At
10:15: "I had the feeling at break," Jane said, "that Seth has gone away,
rather than staying close like he usually does - as though he’d left to
gather information or something. I’m perfectly willing to continue the
session, though.")

(Then: "I did get a line just now," she said. "Something about how they
prepared the air first, for the construction of the pyramid...Now I’m
getting the feeling of an awful lot of people, chanting - thousands of them
- this still has to do with the pyramids.")

(It’s a real funny feeling, as though the sound could break through into
the living room," Jane said. I said I thought I understood what Seth was
doing: in light of the material we’d been getting, he was giving Jane the
experience of that ancient time and our present time, showing that both are
simultaneous. This experience would tie in nicely with the material.)

(I feel that a whole mass of people would visualize a pyramid in their
imagination," Jane said, "then through their chanting, the use of certain
vowels and pitches, they actually changed the air where that building was
going to be. They made a boundary in the air," she said making angular
gestures, "a cohesiveness, for this imaginary structure. Then they had
certain kinds of tuning forks, then some kind of instrument. The noise of
the chant was like something that you’d use to turn on this instrument -
when the chant got to a certain pitch it turned on this instrument, and it
somehow intensified and focused sound to what we would call an incredible
energy degree - broke it down and then focused it in certain directions.:)

("You could move very heavy objects with it. The objects were levitated -
raised up in the air, no matter how heavy. They only needed to be guided
by people to some degree. Many men were used to guiding them but not to
lift or carry them. The sound instrument had a fantastic cohesive effect
that bound atoms and molecules together.")

(10:25 "And beside that the instruments also set up some kind of extra
charge that we don’t understand yet, around objects that were so
constructed, like the pyramids," Jane continued. She was speaking faster
now than she had in the session. "Doors and passageways inside the
pyramids will open through the correct sound messages and signals, and were
designed only to open if those correct signals were given.")

(This sounds really weird. There are also invisible pyramids - we just
can’t see them." I could tell that Jane didn’t know what to make of this
data; she was even hesitant at telling me. "These pyramids were constructed
in such a way that they reflect everything else, so that when you look at
them you don’t see them as objects. Wait, I’m not getting this
right...they’re perfect camouflages of wherever they are, but certain sound
pitches would make them visible.")

("There are some invisible rooms like that inside the regular pyramids, too.")

(Pause at 10:30. "These are structures engineered on our earth extremely
cleverly. Sound patterns would physically materialize them, but if these
patterns aren’t given then the structures are just out of the range of what
we’d normally (call?) physical. They’re complete, see, if this pattern is
given or spoken.")

(Jane said, "It’s as though they’re frozen - this isn’t a good word - at a
certain stage until these patterns are given." (Pause.) "All objects have
their own sound patterns that help form their structure as much as the
atoms and molecules do...")

(Break at 10:35. "I wanted to take a break, Jane said. "I never heard of
anything like that. It sounded so crazy I didn’t even want to say it,
about the invisible pyramids...The chanting was over here." She gestured
to her left as she sat in her rocker; we were holding the session in her
study in apartment four again. Jane’s gestures thus indicated the large
open center area of the room, as though she was reaching over a wall
almost. "I got some of the chants, but I couldn’t quite carry it through.
Seth didn’t tell me anything like this was going to happen.")

(At 10:43 "I’m just waiting to see what happens next. This isn’t terribly
strong, but I have the feeling of a barrier over there," and again Jane
gestured to her left. "that I can’t get over. But all this stuff comes
from over there. Something about these instruments making atoms and
molecules denser, somehow - doing different things with them...")

(Then Seth returned at 10:45:) "Now. The information Ruburt gave is
substantially correct."

"You know that sound has an effect upon living things. It can help mend
bone. It can also be used, however, to reinforce structures. We are in
the preliminary stages with the Sumari language - hopefully leading to some
understanding of the nature of sound, though (humorously) you may not yet
be able to build a pyramid in your back yard."

Rob: "I understand."

Seth: "Now I would like you to close your eyes, or leave them open if you
prefer. Let various inner sounds, memories of sounds, enter your
consciousness, that may or may not be familiar to you. Try to think of the
sounds of images, think specifically of pyramids and see what sounds come
to you."

(10:50 While Seth was talking I kept writing, of course, in order to get
the material for future reference. Finally I sat quietly. Jane was
already doing so, her eyes shut; I didn’t know whether Seth had left again
or not. My own eyes closed and I let myself drift.)

(In a few moments I seemed to visualize a pyramid shape that was based on
pictures I remembered of the actual structures in Egypt. This was very
pleasant. I seemed to be above the building looking down at it. This
image, on a slight angle, was probably more subjective than objective.
Then I seemed to feel a deep ringing gong-type sound, one that was rather
prolonged. It was repeated several times. After this I felt and heard a
series of chants by an unseen group, seemingly out of my field of vision to
my right.)

(The chanting was low and monotonous. It went up and down the scale but a
few notes. I had the feeling that it would repeat itself almost
effortlessly as long as I sat in this state and listened. I enjoyed the
experience, and was somewhat surprised at the results.)

(I opened my eyes. Jane opened hers, and I could see that Seth was
present. I described what I had experienced, not knowing if I had
accomplished anything even remotely approaching what he had in mind. "I
don’t know why," I added, "but I associated the square base of the pyramid
with this gong effect. It was as though I could see this shape especially
well while listening to the gong sound, which was quite prolonged actually.
It seemed to repeat itself. Like the chants, which were pretty
monotonous, up and down a few notes on the scale. They weren’t pitched
very high, either.")

Seth: "That is a very good beginning."

(I don’t know why I use the word gong," I said. I couldn’t imitate it. I
think there’s a funny association there also with old movies. I could have
picked up the chanting idea from material Jane was getting earlier this
evening.)

(10:56) Seth: "I want you to discover some of these things for yourself,
which is why I used this particular format this evening. I will only tell
you then that your feeling of the sound of a gong is quite legitimate.

"I would like both of you at odd moments to look at objects, then try to
hear their sound. This will be handy training for some other things to
come. This also applies incidentally to various organs of the body, and to
the body itself. Then let the sounds evoke whatever naturally comes from
them. There is a strange inter-relationship between sound and what you
think of as time, but a binding one.

"Time can then ‘appear’ as a sound. Sound can be used to set apart certain
elements from others, to isolate them from others, and on the other hand to
bind elements also. In that regard think of sound as a line perhaps that
you sketch with.

(11:01) "Sound’s properties are not understood. I want it specifically
noted then that sound can be used as a binder or as a separator of
elements. It can be used to open up pathways within dimensions, both
microscopic and macroscopic.

"And with that I will close our session. Think also, however, of the sound
in connection with your paintings, of sounds that will make the paintings
themselves more vital and the material last longer. And with that I will
leave you."

Rob: "Thank you very much, Seth. It’s been extremely interesting. Good
night."

(11:04. Jane said that while I had been getting my effects, she had been
somewhat separated from Seth after all. She saw groups of men "like
pictures you’d see of Egyptians. I saw their dark skin - in color -
against short robes. They were in groups chanting.")

(She saw a structure like a pyramid shape. She had the feeling that
"heavier sounds were at the bottom. These formed the base of the pyramid."
She tried several times to explain this to me. It was all important, she
said, that the heavier sounds were at the base of the structures. Like the
musical scale, she felt that the sounds used in building the pyramids "made
steps in the air that you couldn’t see. Certain sounds went up - certain
sounds bound things together - they all had purposes..."

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