Re: Leon Dragone
Meat Truck ( (no email) )
Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:15:42 -0500
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> From: Meat Truck <mnorris@akron.infi.net>
> To: Bill McMurtry <weber@powerup.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Leon Dragone
> Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 9:05 PM
>
> Great post Bill. Time permitting I must conduct this experiment myself.
I
> would suggest the following modifications and possible problems.
> 1) Use pulsed 120 hz dc signal from ac rectification of wall supply .
> 2) Choose a capacitance that would resonate with the coil at 120 hz if an
> ac signal were
> used. Use this capacitance as the "filter" in the power supply,(ie across
> the pulsed output). I have used this method to alter induction arcs.
Seems
> to increase the voltage at the arc.
> 3) Problems; Insertion of the magnet will change the induction thus
> possibly interfering with the above method. The N up and S up positions
of
> the magnet should produce two differing inductances to the same dc
source(
> I would suppose). To an ac input this might appear as an impedance that
> changes every half cycle which leads to the nearly impossible situation
of
> finding a capacity that could also correspondingly change every half
cycle
> to accommodate a possible resonance. Additionally since induction meters
> use an ac test signal to determine inductance such a meter might give a
> deviated reading. The preceeding suggestions might only be feasible with
> large inductances.
> Sincerely H. Norris mnorris@akron.infi.net
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> > From: Bill McMurtry <weber@powerup.com.au>
> > To: keelynet@DallasTexas.net
> > Subject: Leon Dragone
> > Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 11:14 PM
> >
> > Hi Jerry, all,
> >
> > Been going over some old papers here and doing a little brainstorming.
> Have
> > you heard of a now deceased physicist named Leon Dragone? This guy
> drafted
> > a paper on a magnetic energy process just before he died. Very
> interesting
> > and it may shed some light on the work of researchers such as Newman,
> Gary,
> > Adams, Johnson, etc.
> >
> > One of the big problems (for me, at least) in working with claims of
> > overunity operation of a particular device is in accounting for the
> source
> > of the energy supplying the work. A case in point here is Wesley Gary's
> > little self-acting machines, where does the energy come from to drive
> them?
> > Is there some exotic 'zero point', as yet untapped, energy source? It
is
> > possible of course, but it does not solve our immediate problem. If we
> look
> > for our answer to this 'energy crisis' within the known framework of
> > physics, what do we see? Heat becomes the only present reasonable
> candidate
> > for the source of work in a self-acting system. A device that can
> transform
> > ambient heat energy into useful work can achieve overunity operation.
> >
> > Leon Dragone outlines the very simple nature of his electrical 'heat
> pump'
> > effect. His system consists of nothing more than a coil, a magnet, a
> power
> > supply, and a switch. He places a permanent magnet within a copper coil
> and
> > energizes the coil so that the external field of the magnet is
> > removed/compressed from the space around the magnet, without changing
the
> > polarity domains within the magnet itself. He then employs an arc
switch
> > (simple contacts) to quickly disconnect the power supply from the coil,
> and
> > leaves the coil open circuit. Suddenly the field of the permanent
magnet
> is
> > free to expand back out to its 'normal' geometry around the magnet. But
> the
> > process of expanding this field requires work. The coil is open
circuit,
> so
> > the energy can not be drawn from current in the coil. The field must
> > reinstate itself. Energy is drawn from the vibrating molecular domains
> > within the magnet, causing a measured drop in temperature of the
magnet.
> > Essentially, ambient heat is transformed into work to reinstate the
> field.
> > Any inductive load applied while the field is expanding/relaxing is
> driven
> > by extraction of ambient heat energy from the surrounding enviroment.
> > Dragone claims to have measured experimental system energy gains on the
> > order of 20:1, using this approach.
> >
> > It may well be that this simple principle is at work within Gary's
> devices.
> > In the instance of the oscillating beam system (fig. 3, Harpers
article),
> > the armature remains on the neutral line, and therefore unpolarized,
> until
> > the pivoting magnet is raised close to it. The attractive force between
> the
> > pivot magnet and the armature then pulls the armature over the neutral
> > line. The field of the armature expands as it assumes its polarized
> state.
> > This requires work. On expanding, the armature field interacts with the
> > pivot magnet field, applying a force to the pivot magnet, which also
> > requires work. Could it be that this work is supplied by ambient heat
> > conversion as outlined by Dragone? Is it possible that Gary's
self-acting
> > machines experienced a temperature drop on the armature, or magnet, or
> > both, as a result of this conversion process? The power requirements
for
> > Gary's no-load self-acting demonstrations would have been very small,
> > suggesting that minute temperature drops in the system would only be
> > required to drive the system.
> >
> > This approach would appear to open up interesting applications, and of
> > course may go a long way in explaining claimed overunity operation in
> > various magnetic systems. Comments?
> >
> > Regards, Bill.
> >
> >
> >
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