Re: Question on magnetic star (off topic)

sno ( sno@GroupZ.net )
Sat, 03 Oct 1998 21:19:28 -0400

OK Lee, I'll bite, as I understand mass...it is anything that shows
the property
we call inertia...the more the mass the more the inertia that is shown
at equal
speeds...

Anything that has mass, as it gets closer and closer to the speed of
light, takes
more and more energy to get it to go faster..(e=mc^2 or
c^=m/e)....therefore to
my way of thinking, anything that has mass will travel slower than the
speed of
light...and if a neutrino has mass, it will arrive later than
x-rays/gamma rays
which, having no mass, travel at speed of light....so my thinking is
that the
six hours was caused by neutrinos having mass...

Am waiting to be corrected on any of this <g>.....steve

Lee Markland wrote:
>
> Can you define mass? So that we know what we are calculating?
>
> Did it take 5 or 6 hours for this so called "neutrino" burst to reach
> Earth, meaning it traveled at subliminal speeds? What an emission of
> radiation from a supernova travel at subliminal speeds while the light
> traveled at a higher rate of speed?
>
> Or did it take 5 or 6 hours of chain reaction, after the star went
> supernova, before this radiation we call neutrino's was released?
>
> Are these valid questons?
>
> Lee
>
> At 11:42 PM 10/2/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Jim...since there were six hours from a relatively close
> >supernova, does that mean. because of the extreme distance of
> >this star we can expect a neutrino burst at some future
> >time....
> >and can we calculate the mass from this burst when it arrives ??....to
> >verify the estimated mass of neutrino we have now....steve
> >
> >Jim Farrer wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear "sno"
> >> Several years ago, an astronomer returning from lunch at Cerro Tollolo
> >> (sp?) observatory in Chile noticed a star shining where none should be.
> >> He checked, and sure enough, no such bright star should have been there.
> >> Reported it instantly, and is thus the discoverer of a super nova. Due to
> >> his fast notification and our great world wide comm systems, I have read
> >> that the Neutrino detection teams all over the world were able to prepare
> >> for and register the arrival of the neutrino burst some 5 or 6 hours
> >> later. Recently it has been found that one of the three neutron types
> >> carries a very small amount of mass, thus cannot travel at exactly light
> >> speed. The other two types are also expected to be found to posses mass.
> >> Can anyone else verify or correct what I've so hazily recalled?
> >>
> >> Jim Farrer
> >>
> >> sno wrote:
> >>
> >> > Was wondering about the x-rays and gamma rays from the magnetic star
> >> > that arrived
> >> > 27 Sep....I assume that they were traveling at speed of light, are
> >> > there any other
> >> > particles that may have been emitted by this burst, that may arrive at
> >> > a later time ???
> >> >
> >> > If so, is there any chance that they could reach the earths surface, I
> >> > understand that
> >> > the x-rays and gamma rays were absorbed by the
> >> > atmosphere....thanks...steve opelc
> >
> >
> >