JERRY - Re: Religion on the List

Don J. S. Adams ( (no email) )
Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:31:56 -0500

Jerry,

I acknowedge that this is your list and what you say goes.

> I think the concern is a particular belief system such as Catholicism,
> Christianity or such...and bringing in concepts of good or evil...thats
> just not appropriate as it definitely points to a belief and/or judgment
> system...

If understand you correctly, Catholicism and Christianity are the 'belief systems'
in question, where as the others I mentioned appear to be in another category according
to what I understand your definitions are.

> The point here is HARDWARE, not god or satan, good or evil.

agreed, hence my earlier proposal of the purely hardware experiment for the pyramid device.

> If an experiment is claimed to have worked and there is sufficient
> information to post or point to that others can try it themselves then
> fine...but god and religion is not subject to an experiment that is
> hardware related....unless someone is hiding information again like I am
> so often accused of doing...<g>....

grin, I understand what you are saying. Perhaps we simply just see differently on this issue.
I think a physical object can be perceived and 'believed' to have 'religous' associations.
But it appears that my definitions of religions are different from yours.

> I sure hope we don't get off into standard newsgroup arguing....I can
> easily make the list moderated so that no post gets through without my
> approval....but people will be gone before that will happen...too time
> consuming for me and I fully expect responsible people to have enough
> common sense to realize what fits and can be correlated and what doesn't
> without dragging in religion, conspiracies, UFO/abductions/lights in the
> sky, poems and such topics better directed at other lists....

I will strive to no longer make comments on-line in Keely about what I deem as innapropriate
'religious comments' since my definitions do not seem to the same as the moderators.

> As the person posted out, its better to see 5 useful, informative posts
> a week than 100 with junk...and I agree with that two hundred percent.

I agree that 5 useful, informative posts are better than junk.

> Unfortunately, sometimes metaphysical concepts are the best way to
> describe some ideas (because there are often few if any corrolaries or
> analogies in normal, non-metaphysical terms) and I find that perfectly
> acceptable until people start invoking God(s) or their particular flavor
> as 'the way' or warning of satanic/evil propensities.

I see that we have quite different views on this matter.

> That's just wrong, people are old enough to be able to determine if they
> want to chance an experiment without being 'preached at'...and some of
> the posts I've seen from people here have been doing exactly
> that....just out of place...

yes from both sides. however it seems odd to me that only one side has been
repressed.

> It's not hard to comprehend in the least and if there are problems with
> the approach, anyone is free to leave the list if that is their main
> interest, then they've lost their reason for being here anyway and need
> to just move on.

agreed

>
> The focus for this list remains as primarily threefold and quite basic
> though there are permutations and these interests are what spawns and
> ennervates KeelyNet...

I understand

> I just hope people can keep their own prejudices out of the discussions
> as it does upset others who sometimes don't want to further flame it up
> by posting to the list as the email sent to me indicates. It is not the
> first complaining of topic skewing but is one of the more specific.

I can appreciate you concern

>
> I almost want to take the blame for starting it, but I reread the
> original post and all it said was I had experimented with pyramids with
> some degree of what I considered success and gave details and the theory
> as to how I thought it might work.
>
> Suddenly, out of the blue, it became evil, witchcraft and all kinds of
> weirdness that was never stated or claimed...just a simple
> experiment....we'll see in the future if any useful experiment results
> are posted for all to learn from....I am certainly hoping people will
> try this very simple experiment...after all, you don't really need your
> soul while you are still alive....<G>......

grin, very punny! ;) In a previous post I recall you having said;

>It is EXPERIENTIAL. It costs almost nothing to do the experiment and
>you might have something unusual happen in your life. The terms don't
>really matter about witchcraft, karma, etc...only that you achieve
>results. Try it, hot glue and dowel rods, an 8 year old could do it.

Perhaps we must agree to disagree on this matter. You feel that the 'terms'
don't matter, whereas I do... my rationale being... why else would the terms
exist as such? But I will strive to make no comments on issues which I feel
are inappropriate in relation to metaphysics or spiritualism mixed into science
since you and I have different definitions and understandings of such and it
is of course your site.

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