Re: PYRAMID DEVICE - An Answer?

JCSnooky@aol.com
Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:06:39 EDT

Hello Don:
In a message dated 98-09-24 22:54:08 EDT, you write:

<< Ok,

I've been thinking about Jerry's device on and off a fair bit.
The one that is constructed in the shape of a pyramid where
magnets are set in place and focus on a 'written' script which
details a desired outcome the user wishes realized.

My initial take on this was that it smelled very much like voodoo
or witch craft. But as I said I was willing to keep an open mind and
listen
to other plausible explanations. A few folks offered these, some were
quite good, I take my hat off to John Berry's explanations for instance.

However I still didnt feel like all bases were covered here, and in my
opinion
there didnt seem to be any way of arriving at a high level of confidence
that certain 'forces' which I seek to avoid might not be employed here.
There were numerable aspects of this experiment which seemed to indicate
dangerous waters to me.

Then I began wondering about something else... could it be that these
'subtle'
fields mentioned in the case of the pyramid might be of a morpogenic
nature?
IF so, what would mean?!

I think... If Sheldrake is right about these m-fields existing and the
properties
he thinks they may have AND if this device is using only these
fields..then
there must be a way to test for this. Some how, some way, there must be
a
task or process that the device could be set to doing that results would
be consistent.
And repeatable. If the script is like unto software and the pyramid is
like unto hardware
and the motive force / medium / fuel is the m-field then wouldnt it
stand to reason
that this device could yield stable results that were directly
measurable?

Recall that Sheldrake does imply that m-fields are consistent. They do
not change
much. He does not know what instantiated a given pattern / field per
se, but regarding
the fields constancy, this appears to be something he is certain about.

Now then, if the device affects an m-field there should be both
localized and remote
phenomenon occuring. In fact if an m-field is being directly modified
there should
be some sort of 'dramatic' effect produced... I mean if you have a field
that is typically
constant and you start to tweak it then shouldnt there be some sort of
resulting stress
involved? A shear of some sort? I would refer the reader to the
excellent work done by
Penrose on what he refers to as 'hyperdimensional Twistors'. Strange
geometric forms
that underly time/space in some way. Oddly I find many of their
properties similiar in concept
to m-fields. Again, I do not know the dangers which may be inherent of
'tweaking' physical
reality in this way. However in a conversation I had with James Bare
(of the Bare Rife Plasma
generator notoriety) some time ago, he states;

>>DO NOT PLAY WITH THESE!!!!!!!!
>> I have some copies of an article where genetic traits were transferred
>>through a plasma field into chicken eggs. They were crossed with ducks -
got
>>chickens with semi webbed feet and duck bills.

So in his opinion there may well be some very dangerous effects produced
here.

On theother hand if the device employs what I would very loosely refer
to as paranormal
/ spiritual energies, then as I stated before I have no desire to tinker
with it as I fear
the potential dangers could be far worse.

But then again, what if m-fields were themselves in the realm of voodoo
and not science...
that would beg an entire set of new concerns in the context of this
posting...

If there were a way to safely test this device, and I'm not sure how one
could ensure safety here.
Perhaps a series of simple tests could be devised. For instance, keep
the 'script' exceedingly
simple and direct. Perhaps only one sentence. On the script you state
'the red rose in my room
and at my mothers house grows 8 leaves before the petals fall off'. Or
something along this venue.
Then one grows a rose at both locations and watches their progress. If
indeed the rose DOES grow
8 leaves before the petals fall off then we can at least say we have
observed a possible phenomenon.
Further, if this can be done consistently then it would seem to me that
perhaps this device lies
more in the realm of science than in the realm of voodoo.

Another line of thought I found interesting was this; what if this setup
was simulated on a computer?
What would happen if I wrote a simple software program that would repeat
a simple statement over and over
24 hours a day? Then perhaps I could connect some kind of RF
transmitter to the serial port, then
cause the repeating statement to not only show on the VDU but also to
stream as binary bits to the
port and then convert this stream to a broadcast transmission of RF
pulses? Or what if I designed
a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional pyramid on screen and
had the script repeat over and over
within the graphic of the pyramid? I could assign 'virtual' magnets
with simulated magnetic properties
and aim the simulated mag-fields at the running script...all the while
causing a complete memory dump
of what is occuring in RAM and being written to drive to also be offset
to the serial port and thus
streaming out into the RF transmission?

Broadcasters manipulate humans by bombarding us with commercial media.
They affect out mental
patterns by exposing us to EM waves, light and sound...what if there was
a darker side to this?
What if by broadcasting messages they were able to gain far greater
control over us than we've ever
imagined? We already know that human behavious has been shown to be
modifiable by the introduction
of certain kinds of scalar waves / microwaves carrying instructions.

I haven't got the foggiest idea of whether any of this sounds sane or if
its playing with things we shouldnt
be... I just don't know. Too say I was rather reluctant to even try
this would be exagerating! However
the thought had crossed my mind. And as I say if something repeatable
and consistent were observed then
I think we might have something to go on.... at least insofar as
possibly observing a 'scientific' phenomenon.
Feedback? >>

What is the science of today but the 'voodoo' of yester-years? The only
difference between so-defined 'white magic' and 'black magic' is intent. When
one's work is not for but to aid another in need, with no concern for fame,
money, nor power for one's own self, ie, no ego-gratification involved, how
can it be said to be wrong or 'evil'?

Is using an instrument, such as the pyramid device, to selflessly benefit
another person (or persons) all that different than a similar situation, such
as in prayer (which is, semantics aside, fundamentally no different than
meditation), where the 'experimenter' is not using a pyramid, but a small
religious icon held in the hand such as a string of beads or a cross?!

For you anti-catholics out there, these, in this case, should not be construed
as 'idolatry' but merely as aids for which to focus one's attention. In the
same veign, why couldn't the pyramid device, and similar devices, not be seen
as 'tools of the Devil' but as prayer 'amplifiers'?!

Though I respect the religions of others, I prefer, for myself, the concept of
'spirituality' (which is not, I feel, a quality exclusive to religion).
Perhaps the platitude comes to mind, "the road to hell is paved with good
intentions"--however, if we let that ideal stop us, nothing for the good of
another would ever be attempted.

And, of course, we could have never read the Bible story of "the good
Samaritin." I wonder what the 'pharisees' and 'saducees' of today might have
said. Maybe something like, "DANGER, DANGER....WILL ROBINSON!" (Pardon my
levity.)

Please don't take me wrong, Don. I in no way mean this as a put-down of your
beliefs. But perhaps while you are exploring and scrutinizing all the
possible ways that these pyramid experiments might be defined as
'scientific'--thus letting you of the religious hook, so to speak, you might
also want to re-examine some of those self-procalimed "Laws" found in the
scriptures (of all religions).

I mean, which is most important, the 'letter', or the 'Spirit' of the law?--I
think you know what I'm getting at, here. Regards,

Sincerely,

JC Snooky