Re: Newman vs. Mina-Kota

Jerry W. Decker ( (no email) )
Sat, 19 Sep 1998 23:14:36 -0500

Gary!

So what bug is up your rear? Newman has his own list and I knew if I
posted that someone would get ticked, usually the very ones who tease
and never produce anything of interest or use.

I never figured out exactly what you were up to (same for many who float
in and out of here). When there was an offer to chip in money to help
you, you declined, saying you could and would do it all yourself. Yeah
right.

I had no further information about Clem or it would have been posted, so
you have no right to take that tone with me and especially on the public
list. If you had an issue you should have written me direct or called.

Who the heck are you to think you could waltz in and ask for any kind of
inside information? Pop up out of nowehere, offer nothing in return or
of use and expect everyone to just bend over to help you to what end?
You certainly never provided anything useful to the list that I've seen
so glass houses to your tease and run technique.

I usually respond when I think there is something I can do to help or
resolve. You remind me of the ones who used to sign on to the KeelyNet
BBS and wanted, nay DEMANDED to be immediately put up in the higher
levels where the more technical details went on. Puhleeze...get a
life....

If you had something to ask me about Clem, you know my address and phone
number so you don't need to dance around the list with comments like
'someone knows', making all those claims that you'd build, seeking
information and accolades for NOTHING except a typed response. Geez,
pure InterNet garbage.

As I said, that Newman post was to another list where the arugument is
never resolved as I pointed out. I monitor other lists and see the
UNENDING arguments about chemical minutaie, arguments revolving around
semantics and people promoting something as Soule has done for many
years now with Newamn.

That's all well and good, I've talked with Joe both on the phone and in
person, attended his presentations and to date nothing has come of his
efforts. He's an interesting fellow but SOMETIME, SOMEWHERE, it has to
be duplicated and PROVEN absolutely to work, RELIABLY...what is it now,
20 years???

Rather than fill up the KeelyNet archives with these ceaseless arguments
providing little or NO useful information that Soule is quite famous
for, I'll simply ask first and purge as necessary. As I've said all
along, if you are uncomfortable with the list topics or if I feel the
need to moderate, you came here and you can certainly leave on your own.

Seeing as how you've bent over backwards to provide a list and webpage
to help anyone,...oops, strike that, more liked teased and promised with
nothing tangible forthcoming, you should have some idea of why
moderation is necessary.

Some people just sign on and suck up all they can, offering nothing in
return, but hoping for at least one thing they can use. I've seen it
since the early days of the BBS and I really don't give a flip what you
think if I choose to moderate seeing as how you've taken such a stand on
beeing so free with information and offering information....woops, there
I go again....should have been teased people seeking to build your own
self-esteem from promises of 'building' and at your own expense....how
touching and how BS...

With regards to my concerns of the Newman flamewars trashing the
KeelyNet archives, if you had a clue you'd check the history of some
lists and see that Soule and Newman were BANNED or asked to leave
becuase they would discuss nothing else BUT Newman.....it was hoped when
he had his OWN list, all that traffic and argument would move there and
it did for awhile....but this recent Phoenix 'demo' again brought it up
in the lists...the demo failed....

Like the shirt says, 'The boat sank, get over it...'.

So, you drag yourself out of nowhere, drop in, make sensational claims
to an audience of something like 170 people, claiming you have
ablilities and a willingness to do something and when you have produced
or shared nothing of use, you sneak off under the smoke of Newman.

In the process slamming me on the list when I choose to NOT allow the
archives to become swamped with the same Newman arguments that went on
for years in other lists...all of it leading to nothing.

This to me is your way of getting out of all of the claims you made to
these 170 or so people, you'll just pack up your toys and leave, rather
than having to PROVE or COME FORTH or MAKE GOOD on any of your claims.

As to the other aspects you mention regarding voodoo, etc...you've
certainly got a good grip on that subject...I haven't noticed you being
any well of inspiration or information...sucking up anything you could
for your own self, with hints that 'you'll build'...yeah, right, time
will tell which of us produces anything USEFUL and PRACTICAL.

Naw, its much easier to just get ticked off at my post and use that as
an excuse to make a 'graceful' exist so you don't have to answer anyones
questions about how far along are you on your PROMISES to build
anything....yep, you have it down pat...is stock or franchise in your
company next??

A lot of the stuff on the list drifts and it is after all MY LIST so I
choose what I think will fit, there are many interleaves, some of which
you are apparently too biased, religiously or scientifically to
comprehend.

I don't know what your issues are but I'm glad you've revealed yourself
before any of us sent you any money or additional information (I hope!!)
with your trumped up claims....anything to see your name on the computer
screen, doubly blessed when people compliment you in a public forum on
your willingness to build and share...yeah right, just a cesspool of
promises until they conflict with your own innate prejudicies and you
can use it as an excuse to walk away and not have to back up what you
said.

Get your own page or sponsor your own list...no, you'll never do that as
you are one of the users who take and give nothing...as evidenced by
your post.

Pitiful, you won't comprehend this in the least but I rest easy knowing
you'll wind up exactly where you belong...

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