I will answer two questions from your response, on this list, and if you so
choose, I will answer any further points via personal email, as this is
already starting to take on a tone, that is not productive to anything!
>Can you repeat this, I need proof and replication for my science.
Well, it was repeated at least twice at that party, with different people
in different positions, of this human "pyramid". And, it worked then too.
This is a simple enough home work assignment, assuming you can find five
people who are willing to come over to your house. You should be able to
reproduce it and tell me if it worked for you or not. I was only presenting
a scenario, that happened to me; which caused me to want to discover the
"facts", scientific or otherwise behind it. Nothing more, and nothing less!
>How do you know God is not lying to you, how do you know whatever you have
>read was all just a lie to trick you?
Like I said, God showed Himself to me, in a manner that proved His truth,
down to the depths of my soul, in a way that was incontrovertible to ME.
I cannot put my own personal Spiritual epiphany into words, that you would
even understand. I CAN refer you to the multiplied 'millions' of my
Spiritual brothers, and sisters in the faith who can testify that they have
had the very same 'type' of epiphany! So! If you want the answer to this
question; then I can only point you to God, and tell you to go ask Him
yourself, as to why He would show Himself to US, and not to you in this
way. If God ever did contradict his 'Rhema Word', and that proved to be a
lie, then He would cease to be the God, which is described in the Bible,
because that God is incapable of a LIE. Regardless of the misconceptions,
that you have about His Word, He has not, and never has lied, to me or
anyone else. Satan is the Father of Lies!
There is one sure fire way that I could answer your question; but, you
truly do not have the ears to hear it at this point, and I am not about to
even try.
And, don't fool yourself, the reason I choose not to directly answer your
question, is not because I can't; but rather, because you have proven to
me, that you would not accept any answer I had to give. You have closed
your mind to the one possibility, that will allow you to ever prove me
right, because you HATE the possibility, that I might be right. So, there
you stand, with an ocean of Spiritual knowledge at your feet, and you dare
not even wade in; because you are stomping your little feet, and demanding
that God prove Himself to you on your terms! Well, it DON'T work that way,
Bubba!
So, again I say: Why should I even try? Go to God. But, go to God on His
terms, fully expecting to have the very spiritual, and psychological
foundation, upon which you base your current, perceptions of reality,
crumble under the weight, of His TRUTH! But, you will gain the knowledge of
God himself! I personally have found that rate of exchange, to be MORE than
adequate!
I can tell you right now, that if you don't go to God on His terms, and
actually acknowledge that He is GOD ALMIGHTY; and you insist on placing
even one iota of your 'self' before him on that foundation, then absolutely
NOTHING will happen; because He loves you too much to crush 'you' along
with your fallible paradigm! That is what he has revealed to me, as to why
it took me so long to "find Him".
You have unearthed before me some very deep insights into your soul, by the
very demeaner of your questions. If you TRULY expect answers; go to the one
that you have a beef with, and that (I assure you) is not me! I'm just a
messenger with a pointing stick; and one, who himself, is still searching
for some other minor answers, as to how God is making His universe 'tick'!
But, ONLY if He chooses to reveal them to me.
And thus ends my preaching for good, on this list. I like it here, and I
want Jerry to let me stay. Like I said, if you, or anyone else, want to
talk further, you have my email address.
Stephen Brummitt
dev@icx.net
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At 07:35 PM 9/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Has any one else out there, ever experienced 'near weightlessness', by
>>sitting in a chair, and having 5 people hold their hands over you? In my
>
>Can you repeat this, I need proof and replication for my science.
>
>things which I should have left alone, and would have, if I had only been
>>listening to God! And, I am trying my best to keep my ears open to hear God
>>tell me if I am going in a direction, that I should not go, for whatever
>>reason He deems, because, He is after all GOD! And, He WILL speak, if you
>>will only listen, "He who has ears to hear.... "
>
>How do you know God is not lying to you, how do you know whatever you have
>read was all just a lie to trick you? Who says God has to speak, he is God
>after all, he does not have to speak if he does not want to, and If I were
>God I would much rather talk to the trees anyways. They are not always
>begging for favors - or are they?
>
>>Brother Don came very close to making one point, that I thought very
>>pertinent, that Jesus pretty much came to throw-out virtually everything,
>>that most people hold as being 'religious'. When Jesus declared Himself to
>>be 'THE' only way to the Father,
>
>How do you know he was telling the truth, how do you know that lying is not
>the true order of the universe, and what we consider evil is in Gods eyes
>what he really wants and the book he wrote for you to read was just to play
>games with you, after all he is God, what does he owe you, he can do
>whatever he wants with you, even lie to you. Who is going to make him tell
>the truth? I thought so. You HOPE he does.
>
>>cow! So much so, that they had Him put to death!
>
>The religious folks may have put him to death, but he being the son of God
>and part of God certainly knew this the day he was born, so it was going to
>happen and he willed it, adam and eve did NOTHING God did not ultimately
>want, if so he could have stopped it - before it even started, he did not
>however, so it must have been his will.
>
>>I said that; because, I only believe in Him now, because I was searching,
>
>Why do you believe in him, what if you believe in him and you go to hell
>anyways, he may have been lying, who will punish God or make him keep his
>word? Does he have to, if so why? This whole universe may be just a big
>game for him.
>
>>for something, and all I had to do was open my heart to the possability,
>>that Jesus was who He said He was, and God showed me in an incontrovertible
>>manner, that Jesus was THE bridge between God and man. If you don't believe
>>that, then call me a lier; but from where I stand. I am not about to
>>contridict God!
>
>You don't have to, if you truly believe in the bible, and believe it is the
>absolute word of God, he has already contradicted himself, numerous examples
>are in that book.
>