Re: The Real Deal
Norman Wootan ( normw@fastlane.net )
Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:42:31 -0500
Garry: You mentioned in a previous post that it was 105 degrees out side last
Sunday. Are you in the Dallas area? Where do you live? I wish you were close
by so we could visit so I could share some info with you. The biggest problem
I have with the Clem engine is that I have analyzed both the Clem and the CECAU
design and have found flaws in both that can be overcome with fundamental
changes. Both designs will work in my opinion with the CECAU edging out the
Clem. Both are based on the simple fact that pressures created by artificial
gravity at the fluid exit nozzles are directly proportional to the square of
the radius of the rotating member therefore there is a break-over point in RPM
that will cause it to go over unity. Simply put, the thrust created by the
combined nozzle outputs exceed the torque input requirement to accelerate the
fluid outward through the tubes to the nozzles. The secret that most people
studying the Clem overlook is that if the delivery tubes are formed using the
Phi Golden Mean Ratio of curvature then the fluid will free fall through the
center of the tube with minimal friction in it's movement outward. I have
listened to Jerry talk about others who have attempted to build and test the
Clem that use a fluid pump to cause the starting rotation of the unit. When
they failed to achieve the critical RPM they claimed that they were going to
have to find a higher pressure pump such as a piston car wash pump delivering
2000-3000 PSI. Wrong thinking here for the way to make the Clem break-over is
to use a starting motor to wind the unit up to the 1800 or so RPM based on
radius of the unit. When you calculate the nozzle pressures of a 36 inch
diameter unit turning at 1800 RPM you will find pressures far over those that
can be reached with starting pumps. My CECAU design is 60 inches in diameter
and at 1800 RPM achieve 32,000 PSI at the nozzles which provide a tremendous
thrust which is shaft torque on the order of several hundred horsepower.
Remember that horsepower equals torque in foot pounds times rate (RPM) divided
by 550 foot pounds minute. The cautionary note here is a method of flow
control of the fluid so as to prevent catastrophic runaway conditions where the
centrifugal forces will quickly disintegrate the unit. There is always a
critical material limiting RPM at a radius of rotation. Sorry, that's how
metallurgy works. Build that rascal out of material that can stand the
mechanical and pressure stresses involved. With nozzle pressures of 32,000 PSI
,I immediately run into several problems such as thick wall tubing of good
hardened stainless steel and a ceramic nozzles that can stand the erosion
caused by the supersonic liquid velocities at this pressure. Before starting
the Clem construction ,I would recommend to anyone to take the time to visit
the nearest water cutting machine shop. Here you will get first hand knowledge
of the inherent problems of handling of fluids at supersonic velocities and
pressures of 76,000PSI. Fortunately there are several here in Dallas that I
have visited and I came away amazed at what water cutting can do. When you see
hardened steel 6 inches thick being cut with water there is disbelief at
first. It is so cool to watch glass 4 inches thick being scroll cut into any
shape you can imagine. Back to the subject--I will help with your Clem if you
chose to build it. If you think it is a simple task of knocking it out in a
machine shop in several weeks you will fail. The biggest factor in my opinion
is material selection and careful attention to design around the critical
stress requirements of the rotating unit. Everything has to be absolutely
symmetrical for balance is critical in large rotating units. If you design the
Clem properly you do not need a pump of any kind in the unit for the rotating
Clem is a centrifugal pump by design which will induce it's own flow from the
base oil holding tank. A high speed, high torque starter generator such as
used on turbine engines is a perfect choice for after the unit has been brought
up to operational RPM and temperatures the starting motor reverts to and
alternator to provide a variable load on the unit. If electrical loading of
the unit through power generation by the alternator is suddenly lost there has
to be a method of effectively throttling the fluid flow to the hub of the unit
to prevent catastrophic centrifugal failure. Keep me posted as to your
project. Norm
Garry Whitman wrote:
> Here's the scoop. All of you need free energy more than you know. First a
> little background then the bad news. All my life I have been a fixer. Show
> me a mechanical or electrical machine that's broken and I can repair it
> even if I have never laid eyes on one like it before. Many times I have
> copied a machine for a tenth it's retail price. I seem to be able to sense
> patterns and make use of them. For two years I wrote custom software
> programs to enable businesses to operate on computers. Again patterns and
> being able to put ideas into action.
>
> Some of you have heard of the Y2K problem. Unless you have read and studied
> over 4000 pages of info on this problem you may not have a firm grasp of
> the Real Deal. Suffice it to say that you will not have electricity during
> the year 2000, at least from the power grid. If you consider yourself an
> original thinker then study why civilization as we know it will cease
> sometime in the next year.
> For a starting point Try
>
> http://garynorth.com/y2k/latest_.com
>
> The above is offered in explanation as to why I am in such an all fired
> hurry to see some workable free energy device proven and disseminated to
> all. I have the majority of the parts required to build a Clem engine in my
> shop. However there is much more info on this engine than has been offered
> to me. It was my supposition that by acquiring these items and offering to
> spend my own time and money and freely share the results that more info
> would be forthcoming by some of the list members. While some have been very
> helpful, others with direct knowledge of pertinent information have not. I
> cannot guess why unless they have a private agenda which our success would
> upset.
>
> Since the Clem engine is over twenty years old and very hard to document
> any details at all I built my first Joe cell. This "technology" is only
> five years old, the inventor is still alive and there are what are
> purported to be plans available. My first attempt although not successful
> was quite a learning process, in that I inadvertently reproduced some part
> of Norm's research results without hearing of them before. This weekend I
> will build the Mark III cell and test it on an automobile. As before I will
> post the results and if anyone wants the procedures used. Without some sign
> of anomalous behavior that will be the end of these researches. Barring of
> course a flood of info on the Clem engine from someone who would like to
> see one built.
>
> There is a backup plan. Since I don't plan to live in the stone age I will
> spend my time and energy building a Wally Minto Wonder Wheel. It requires a
> large amount of material for a small output but will accept any low grade
> heat energy and will be low maintenance. If there are those of you out
> there who have information that will benefit us all then NOW is the time. I
> don't have unlimited resources and will move in the direction than will
> benefit my family.
>
> Garry Whitman
> whitman@kskc.net
>
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