You wrote;
> http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?patent_number=4407134
> I don't think this patent is relevant, Jerry. It seems to be
> a perfectly normal, "garden variety" Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube.
> These things have been around for years. You can buy them
> off-the-shelf from at least two companies in the USA, easily
> findable through a web search. They are used for refrigeration
> and for spot heating and cooling in industrial applications.
> Alan
I looked at it and yes it is just a way of tapping vortex separated cold
and heat for air conditioning, but I do think it relevant because many
don't know anything about the vortex tube or how it works.
Perhaps you or someone can provide URLs that would clearly explain the
process so that all may learn? I know you can buy various vortex tubes
for about $200 from Abbeon-Cal and have tinkered with the idea of doing
so but not having an air compressor, never pursued it.
The problem with vortex tubes for air conditioning as I understand it is
they are EXTREMELY inefficient, requiring very large quantities of air
to produce the hot and cold...the beauty is they require nothing more
than the tube and high speed compressed air instead of heaters (if you
want hot air) and refrigerants (if you want cold air) which could be a
godsend in many applications or envirnments.
Now the trick about extracting energy from the vortex tube as this new
ZPE bunch is claiming is what we are all trying to figure out. So maybe
its high time to post as many vortex and vortex tube urls on a single
email as possible so that everyone can get up to speed on what the
vortex tube is, what it does and how it works.
Dennard has one idea and links some of it to Schauberger.
With a recent reply from ZPE to an email I sent, he exhibits a peculiar
reaction about the hot to cold transition portion of the effect.
Expansion produces cold, contraction produces heat. The universe SEEKS
cold, the vacuum of space is intense cold so perhaps there is a vacuum
effect associated with this.
Remember the claims of Zelinksy and another weird machine that said you
could use a vacuum (Chernetskii also) to produce power from an arc or
spark gap struck in that vacuum.
Perhaps a vortex effect IN A VACUUM with a spark gap...since we don't
have a line on it with linear thinking, perhaps we should try LATERAL
thinking....<g>....whatever ends up with a working O/U device that we
could all USE would just tickle me pink...
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