Re:IMPORTANT-This a a response I got from Bruce Marx that makes CS ..

ryb ( ashita@colba.net )
Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:55:35 -0400

Important-in regards to LIVING WATER-here is the response that I got from Bruce
Marx that makes Colloidal silver...
It would appear that when something is too good to be true,it usually is...Hence
the Living Water is making a living for the producer(hummmm)
And persons on this list that tried to get additional infos and the responseof
the company in regards to Viktor Schauberger.. does make one conclude that it
is just another distilling process and marketing hype..

Let us hope that a process based on Viktor Schauberger can eventually be
produced...

Yes I too ,wasconvinced by the LIVING PRODUCT, but not anymore..Will save my $$$
and buy a Csilver machine....

However I remain convinced that we can enhance the distilled water by V.
Schauberger process,etc...who will do it ?

Yours,ryb....

Bruce Marx wrote:

> ryb,
>
> I will quickly respond by 'inserting my responses following your questions.
>
> Thank you for the inquiry.
>
> Bruce Marx, C.E.
> CSPS
>
> ryb wrote:
>
> > Sir,I did purchase your products in the past nd very satisfied with
> > them.Your Csilver does work contrary to other Csilver products where you
> > need a gallon to start feeling any effects at all...!
>
> Nice to hear that you are pleased with our CS product.
>
> > However in regards to the distiller that you sell..Some say that
> > distilled water is in fact 'dead water'.Viktor Schauberger was adamant
> > about this..
>
> Opinions are like 'noses', everybody has one. DW is by no means any 'deader'
> than any other water, other than the fact that all the 'bugs' have been
> taken out, which is what you want. The steam distillation process is still
> the very best way to purify water. I suggest you return to our web site (
> http://www.csprosystems.com ) and read the article 'Dispelling the Myths
> about Distilled Water'.
>
> > Could you tell me if the product called LIVING WATER MACHINE made by
> > CRYSTAL CLEAR OF Westbrookville,NY could be used as a pure water source
> > in order to proceed to make the Csilver via one of your machines ?
> > See their Urlink at : http://www.prime-line-america.com/crystal/
>
> If you want to waste your money ($500-700), this is the place to do it. They
> will not make water even close to good enough for use in our systems (needs
> to be 1.0 PPM/TDS or less). In fact, the water produced is little better
> than ordinary 'tap' water. I have several of my customers whom have been
> 'stung' by this character. He is also involved in other 'get rich quick'
> scams. He displays all the 'classic' signs: no toll free number, he does not
> take credit cards, and does not give any performance guarantee or refund.
> Like all of his ilk, he is, however, very good at distorting facts' and
> putting out totally wrong information. Yes, I know him.
>
> > Other products that ad(?) zest to water but do not seem to purify it of
> > its impureties are:
> > http://www.primenet.com/~alices/ their system is called GRANDER
> > WATER FOUNTAIN.....
> > Perhps the most interesting site is the one with Pi water(a Japanese
> > process)at:
> > http://www.pi-water.com
> > If you go to their PRODUCTS section and click on theAP-450 you will see
> > that it is really made of 4 cartridges,1 sediment cartrige,1 KDF &Coconu
> > shell active carbon,1 coconut shell active and last a Pi Ceramic
> > cartrige that change sprocessed water into Pi Water..
> > Does that system meet the citerias of purity in order to make Csilver
> > from it ?
>
> To directly answer your question, NO. All these things supposedly 'alter'
> the water, but few remove contaminants. Those that 'preflight' may be OK for
> drinking, but a long way from the 'purity' of steam distilled. I have a
> customer who uses a device (similar to the 'Gander' process) on his water,
> 'after' steam distillation. Production from his HVAC CS system is about 1/2
> the concentration it should be. Also, TEM pics show considerable
> agglomeration of the particles (unsatisfactory). I must conclude that these
> devices do 'something' to the water ( I have had similar results when
> attempting to make CS in a very strong magnetic field), but I have seen no
> benefit/result increase from using this type of water, and it actually
> degrades the 'measurable' quality of the CS. Besides, they are all terribly
> expensive, for something that appears very simple. I am not sure that the
> High Voltage current of our systems does not itself do something to the
> water, which enhances the effectiveness of the CS. Maybe I should get on the
> 'bandwagon' with the rest of them.
>
> > More infos about Viktor Schauberger,go to this Swedish site(in
> > English)mintained by Engineers..(civil,electronics,etc..)at:
> > http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-58759/Starteng.html
>
> When I 'see' something from an 'eminent' micro biological or physiological
> researcher, indicating that there is something really beneficial in these
> processes, I may become more interested. What I have seen so far is simply
> 'detectable change', but no benefits relative to the human situation. "Give
> me something I can SEE, and I might begin to believe"! I have 'seen' the
> amazing effects of CS for over 8 years, and the absence of contaminants in
> steam distilled water for over 40 years, and I believe in these things!
>
> > Schauberger's books have just started to be published in English,go to
> > this site:
> > http://www.gatewaybooks.com/alt-e.html
> >
> > Yours,ryb...