Re: Joe Cell

Bill McMurtry ( weber@powerup.com.au )
Sat, 15 Aug 1998 11:10:05 +1000

Hi Michael & all,

This information is contained in the latest Nexus magazine. There is a book
on offer with this article that claims to provide more technical
information. Perhaps the single most bizaar aspect to this 'fuel energy
cell' is the claim that the outlet pipe from the cell does not supply
anything material to the motor! As would be expected with any electrolysis
system, the gases produced would be supplied to the combustion chamber.
This, apparently, is not the case with the 'Joe X' cell. This cell works
without ongoing battery connection and the output pipe from the cell is
normally connected to a blank fitting on the carburettor, so it's claimed.
Joe X claims he does not know how it works and that he has converted over a
dozen auto's to run with this system. He claims, or rather the author
claims he claims, that he has driven a converted car over 500 miles with
the motor running cold for the duration. The article goes on to present a
number of refinements to the cell design.

All very weird. The author suggests that some form of exotic energy is
being delivered to the motor - perhaps zero point energy. The 40 page book
"The Joe Phenomenon: How to Run Your Car on Zero Point Energy" is $39
Australian. Will try to obtain more information on this material and let
you know.

Spooky stuff in a cheesy sort of way.

Regards, Bill.

At 12:13 14/08/98 -0700, Jerry Wayne Decker wrote:
>Hi Folks!
>
>I don't know how this will come through but Michael Randall posted it
>to the freenrg discussion list and it looked like it would be useful
>here...this is the simplest version that first produced the effect;
>
>
>The "Joe Cell" Mark I design:
> ^ Energy output to carburetor
>housing I I
> I---------------------------------I I----------I
> I I--------------------------------------I I
>Neg.battery terminal
> I I I--------------->
> I I--------------------------------------I I
> I------------------------------------------------I
> I
> I Positive battery terminal
>The outer housing (from old milking machine) is connected to the
>positive terminal of a 12V dc battery; 36"X 4" dia. stainless steel
>(316). He later found that a smaller unit, 18" long, worked just as
>well; left end had glass window, right end had perspec window with
>hole for through which he fitted a terminal post; the top opening was
>connected to a 1/2" clear plastic hose connected to carburetor
>preheating device (housing) of the Rover V8 3500 SDI.
>The inner element is connected to the negative terminal of a 12V dc
>battery; 24"X 3.5" dia. stainless steel perforated with 8mm
>diamond-shaped holes at 12mm centers.
>The unit is filled with plain water and charged by the 12V dc battery.
> If the car was left overnight the unit discharged and then required
>to be charged for at least 3 min. before working again. It was found,
>by Prof. Ron Davis (now deceased) of Newcastle University, that the
>water discharge could be solved by placing a 1.5V dc battery to the
>cell when not in use (negative to earth and positive to cell casing.
>Joe also had to advance the timing by 80 deg. to bring the motor back
>to a normal, smooth idle. Regards, Michael
>
>
>
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