This thread has been running through freenrg for a bit now and hasn't
offered anything really unique (well, at least that I saw) until this
comment about a potentially 'amorphous' magnetic material.
Now my understanding of amorphous relates to a rigid, crystalline mass
as opposed to a more liquid or malleable form.
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The definition of 'amorphous';
amorphous \A*mor"phous\, a. [Gr. ?; 'a priv. + ? form.] 1. Having no
determinate form; of irregular; shapeless. --Kirwan.
2. Without crystallization in the ultimate texture of a solid
substance; uncrystallized.
3. Of no particular kind or character; anomalous
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The intriquing idea of a magnetic field flipping naturally or with
just a tiny bit of influence as claimed by Floyd Sweet with his VTA
(vacuum triode amplifier) seems to be recurring in this repost from
the free energy list, claiming that Muller might have discovered some
amorphous magnetic material.
I saw the video they are mentioning where Takahashi has I believe two
auto headlamps connected to a battery and a motor/generator built to
his design and with the special magnets.
He starts the motor/generator from the battery, when the motor
achieves a critical velocity, it begins to run on its own and the
battery is disconnected.
As the motor continues to increase in velocity, wires from the
generator coil on the motor are connected tot he headlamps which light
at full intensity.
This was shown at an INE conference several years ago and the
consensual impression I got and agreed with was the demonstration was
indeterminate because it did not clearly show the device connections.
It should have been on a glass table with everything clearly laid out,
at the very least.
At the time, the buzz was that Takahashi was ill and that he had been
discovered to be a fraud...who knows...the trick is always to achieve
independent verification of the claims which to my knowledge has not
happened.
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---eks1 wrote:
>
> Stefan Hartmann wrote:
> >
> > There is one videotape I was told distributed by Infinite energy
> > magazine,
> > where you can see the motor run without any input and powering
> > car back lights ! Ask Gene Mallove from IE magazine.
> >
> > www.infiniteenergy.com
> >
> >
>
> I dont think this URL is correct, going there I find a company that
> seems to merely
> specialize in 3rd party natural gas services! Perhaps the domain name
> was bought
> out?
> >
> > Did anybody understand, why he used 2 different permanent magnet
> > materials in the above patent ??
> >
>
> After a careful examination of the patent (US#05861693) it would
appear
> that the
> intent of using the inner layer of Co-Fe-Y is to increase the flux
> density whereas the
> outer layer of Fe-Nd-B material has a larger coefficient of permeance.
> Combined
> these two materials give a magnet that is both powerful (in terms of
> ferro-magnetic
> attractive force, Teslas-Gauss-Webbers..whatever) and yet less prone
to
> resistive
> magnetic hysterisis.
>
> I'm not sure I buy the notion of this design as OU, since it must rely
> on the energy
> of it's magnets to: a) attract/repel the pole faces during rotary
motion
> AND b.) to
> induce the useful output current.
>
> The Hall-Effect devices act like gates, biasing the transistors into
> avalanche and
> dumping current into the successive field coils to "regauge" the rotor
> with respect
> to the stator's polefaces.
>
> IF this works, (and I say IF because I havent seen it yet!) then it
> would seem that
> the I^2R losses, ohmic heating and hysterisis in the stator's iron
core
> would just
> have to eventually cause the magnets to lose their power! The device
may
> very well
> be capable of running for a month - but after THAT, the magnets
would be
> too
> weak to keep running. Think of the magnets as being a sort of
> "gas-tank"..
>
> Now it seems to me that there was a company in CANADA, that had made
> some
> sort of discovery regarding an almost zero-hysterisis-loss material
that
> they were
> claiming could replace the soft-iron cores in such designs...they
had a
> website..I
> did inquire about it and never got much in the way of real, solid
> information..it was
> Muller Magnetics (now called The Muller Group). They have a basic
> webpage at:
> http://www.polar.bc.ca/magnet/
>
> It seems that Muller has made some discovery about amorphous magnetic
> material
> (and don't laugh, it is possible! Remember the flap about the
Ovashinski
> Amorphous
> Solar Cell back in the 1960's? Well I do..they orthodoxy had a damn
> field-day with
> their scoffing and now General Motors OWNS the patents!) and this, he
> claims, is
> the cornerstone for real OU in the form of perm-magnet motors. I
> dunno..I'd like
> a chance to try duplicating the work, then testing it before shouting
> 'Eureka!'. ;)
>
> Perhaps someone from Muller Group could enlighten us...
>
> Just as an aside, it would seem to me that OU would be best possible
in
> devices that
> do not use moving parts - Sweet's VTA, Correa's PAGD, etcetra...since
> these
> gadgets don't need to contend with frictional losses, etc. At one
point,
> the Swiss-ML
> or Testatika device seemed promising, but I find it difficult to
> understand why there
> is 1.) no CLEAR SCHEMATIC DIAGRAM for this device. (keeping aside
that I
>
> dont believe for one second the diagram that purports to "reveal" that
> the device uses
> radium in a capacitor..at least, not in the form shown!) 2.) No one
> seems to know
> exactly what's inside those Leyden Jars that sit on the left and right
> of the apparatus..
> ..has anyone here contacted Don Kelly about this machine?? Is he on
this
> list??
>
> >
> > Regards, Stefan.
> >
>
> And to you Stefan, thanks for your continued efforts to keep an eye
on
> things, do
> some experiments and report back. Over the years, your willingness
to do
> this has
> been nothing less than saintly in my estimation!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Erik
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Pyromagnetism will achieve this field flipping as James Bailey so
oftern pointed out in his posts and emails to this list.
The idea of a tiny bias to cause a field to a field to flip, as in
quantum chaos type interactions, remains a definite viable alternative
for possible free energy devices.
The idea being to have a coil of wire wrapped around a magnet, cause
the FIELD ALONE to flip and with each flip will come the induction of
an alternating current which could produce power.
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