Re: hydrogen generator

Jerry Wayne Decker ( jwdatwork@yahoo.com )
Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:05:50 -0800 (PST)

Hi Larry et al!

Well no, I never asked because to my view, it is self-evident that
electrical oscillations driving a transducer
(speaker/piezo/plasma/vibrator, etc.) simply move AIR which produces
SOUND.

Unclear on the nature of a 'distinctive tuner' used by Tesla. Could
you be more specific?

This is getting pretty out there so, let's refocus on the thread
topic, with regard to hydrogen generators, whether used in an engine
or just to provide hydrogen for other uses, we have;

1) Keely using what he claimed was 42.8kcps to dissociate the water
molecule for the production of immense pressures (not burning the
released hydrogen or oxygen in any way) and using vibrating bars,
tuned chambers and tuning forks without electricity

2) Puharich using mixed frequencies from the patent and 600 cps from
the article he was quoted from and which essentially 'cracked' the
water molecule to release hydrogen and oxygen which could be used for
combustion or whatever

3) Meyer who claimed to use a high voltage discharge at one or more
frequencies (patent was not found online though it was uploaded by
Camber and I'll post it on the 'new KeelyNet' now in production) for
the production of hydrogen and oxygen for combustion in an engine

4) Brown & Baumgartner using Browns gas, a monoatomic recombination
of oxygen and hydrogen that produces an implosive effect and can drive
an engine though is more commonly thought of as a novel welding system
(see Wisemans page at; http://www.eagle-research.com )

5) Mills with his discovery of a new sub-particle or I think more
appropriately a sub-isotope of hydrogen which he calls a 'hydrino',
which has novel properties and apparently offers a lot of
possibilities for combustion, power production, etc. as on his website
at; http://www.blacklightpower.com

6) and of course, just basic hydrolysis where a high ampere direct
current at low voltage is connected to one or more sets of
anodes/cathodes immersed in water.

I have never seen anything or heard anything about Tesla being
involved in the production of hydrogen.

Unless there is some new information regarding Tesla trying to produce
hydrogen, he is irrelevant to the thread and was only introduced by
myself in an attempt to illustrate that Keely used sound to rupture or
dissociate the water molecule, with no electricity involved, in many
cases producing a peculiar 'taffy-like plasma' that took several forms
depending on whether it was created using air or water...but which (as
I understand it) was in no way either simple hydrogen or oxygen.

What we need to be clear on with regard to Keely and hydrogen
production is that cracking of the water molecule simply to release
hydrogen and oxygen was not what Keely was seeking or what he CLAIMED
to have done.....he apparently went far beyond just cracking to
reportedly produce incredible amounts of force (29,000 psi). There is
a possibility with such numbers of improperly calibrated gauges and
such which does not explain the instant lifting of heavy masses or the
explosion of thick pipes...however, I digress...sorry...

So, since the thread is about hydrogen generation per se, Keely isn't
involved either..<g>....

Personally, give me Keely's dissociation process ANYDAY over just
hydrogen/oxygen gas production which has to be combusted to produce
the explosive thrust.

At any rate, is there anything we've missed with this thread about
'hydrogen generation'?
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---LARRY SULLIVAN wrote:
>
> Hi Jerry:
> Have you ever asked yourself what electrical induced sound is? Is it
> not electrical energy converted to sound frequencies. Although Telsa
was
> the electrical guy, I have noted the distinctive tuner circuit in his
> generator.
>
> Larry

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