Re: Time Travel Up For the Challenge

Marc Olhoeft ( (no email) )
Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:14:13 -0900

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I guess that this discussion has turned more philosophical than =
experimental so here are my thoughts on this also
I believe in the concept of "free will" from our perspective, that is, I =
believe that (we think we are making choices that direct our destiny) =
and that we will experience the effects of our decisions. I further =
believe that we exist within and without of the time space continuum and =
that the part of us that exists outside of the continuum sees time as a =
sort of 2 dimensional map which is spiderwebbed with our potential =
choices and Has designed the map so that all choices lead to the same =
conclusion the choices are up to us to make. Some trails take longer =
and are more interesting some are more direct, and some lead in circles. =
It is up to each of us to learn from the decisions we make. If we do not =
then we do not experience the gains of that learning,and we experience =
the suffering/boredom/injury of our ignorance.=20
We are the "joker" and are watching ourselves learn about ourselves,but =
from our perspective we are all individuals we are free to love/hate be =
kind to /injure each other but we experience what we do to each other =
just as surely as we would if we cut our own arm or embraced. Afterall =
it is only us here. Ultimately we can only make the best choice all =
other paths are well, NOT on the way.

"When the Highest type of men hear TAO,
They try hard to live in accordance with it.
When the mediocre hear TAO,
They seem to be aware yet unaware of it.
When the lowest type hear the TAO,
They break into loud laughter-
If it were not laughed at it would not be TAO."
LAOTSE

Courage,
yours in the cause=20
Marc

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I guess that this discussion has =turned more=20philosophical than experimental so here are my thoughts on this=20also
I believe in the concept of ="free=20will" from our perspective, that is, I believe that (we  think =we=20are  making choices that direct our destiny) and that we will =experience=20the effects of our decisions. I further believe that we exist within and =without=20of the time space continuum and that the part of us that exists outside =of the=20continuum sees time as a sort of 2 dimensional map which is spiderwebbed =with=20our potential choices and Has designed the map so that all choices lead =to the=20same conclusion  the choices are up to us to make. Some trails take =longer=20and are more interesting some are more direct, and some lead in circles. =It is=20up to each of us to learn from the decisions we make. If we do not then =we do=20not experience the gains of that learning,and we experience the=20suffering/boredom/injury of our ignorance.
We are the "joker" and are =watching=20ourselves learn about ourselves,but from our perspective we are all =individuals=20we are free to love/hate be kind to /injure each other but we experience =what we=20do to each other just as surely as we would if we cut our own arm or =embraced.=20Afterall it is only us here.  Ultimately we can only make the best=20choice  all other paths are well, NOT on the way.
 
"When the Highest type of men  hear =20TAO,
    They try hard to live in =accordance with=20it.
When the mediocre hear  TAO,
    They seem to be aware yet unaware =of =20it.
When the lowest type hear the TAO,
    They break into loud =laughter-
If it were not laughed at it would not be=20TAO."
LAOTSE
 
Courage,
yours in the cause
Marc
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