Re: No Free Energy?

Bradley Scott ( brad@saltbush.une.edu.au )
Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:18:18 +1000

At 12:53 AM 21/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
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>
>On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, donadams wrote:
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>> How can someone be smart enough to create a free energy device
>> yet be dumb enough to try to bring it to market via conventional
>> channels instead of giving it freely to the public domain?
>
>Nobody said that inventors are any less impervious to GREED than anyone
>else.
>
>> It just doesn't make sense to me... if I ever developed a truly
>> working device I would send its schematics to millions of people
>> across the internet so that the powers that be, could never stop it!
>
>Riiiiight - ok, you send this schematic to EVERYONE. Now ask yourself:
>who is going to assemble it? Exactly. Most people will brush it off as a
>fraud, and refuse to commit the resources to build it -- people want
>instant total gratification (read: AN ASSEMBLED PRODUCT) that they can use
>INSTANTLY. That's just basic economics, something you obviously didn't
>take enough of in high school.

I can see that you really have a good handle on economics yourself! Just
because energy is free doesn't mean that people will stop producing things.
Some people actually like it. People will still demand products, but they
wont be paying the production cost, they'll be paying the demand cost.
That is, there isn't enough to go around, so those who are prepared to pay
the most will get the few available. This provides the incentive for more
people to produce the product, because there is a buck to be made, but this
drives down the demand cost. The net result, products are produced at
cost. That is basic economics! That is the competitive market. Ask any
farmer why they can't make any money and you'll see that it is because
their are too many of them producing the same product. If production costs
are zero, things are worthless. Therefore, you end up with a whole lot of
people doing things because that is what they want to do.

>
>> To charge for something like this would be like asking people to
>> pay for their freedom with money...or to charge for the air we breathe,
>> that is simply wrong...
>
>Freedom costs, genius - that's the way things are.

Have you seen the movie "Babe"? "That's just the way things are!"

>
>Greed, yeah - kinda like people who DEMAND that people release information
>freely and give nothing in return, right? Yeah. People like that really
>piss me off. (Take a hint)
>
>Again: act yourself. Whoopie, you're a Celtic Scottish Canadian...
>and I'm a European-mixed-breed Seminole Californian, what's your point?
>Everyone knows the power of pollution - and whining for everyone to give
>up their knowledge won't stop this world from going down the drain.
>
>It takes a lot of dedication, effort, energy, hard work, and thought to go
>into creating a working device - and you expect people to just give it up,
>willing. That's lunacy. That's also socialistic. I hate socialists.
>
>Don't take this the wrong way... I'm not trying to be an asshole - but
>your pleas accomplish nothing. Give something back or be silent.
>Either way, just PLEASE stop whining for everyone ELSE to solve the
>world's problems first.

Well, this is really a set of constructive comments. Hopefully this will
put an end to any philosophical debate on the pros and cons of sharing
information. (and, Holmer, if you don't realise it, I'm being sarcastic!)

Cheers,

Brad

Dr Bradley W. Scott
Saltbush Software
Agricultural Business Research Institute
University of New England, NSW
Australia, 2350.

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