Re: several things...

Ken ( (no email) )
Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:25:41 -0500

<<snip>>
>Hum... I'll try more turns ...
>> Also, there are many different ferrites (the lower the 'u' the higher
the
>> frequency - normally). Ferrite does have hysteresis where mixing of
>> frequencies can happen. If there is phase lag/lead - around the SRF
usually,
>> then you could generate harmonics (3rd being the strongest with
symetrical
>> quadrature waveforms). The real question is - what are you trying to do -
or
>> prove?
>Prove nothing, just trying to find the ferrite's resonant frequency.

Oh, well another thing about the 3X harmonics, the back EMF generated
out of phase could mix inside the signal generator (output circuitry - which
is non linear) and thus create harmonics. A better way is guess what the
inductance would be and place a .1uF or .01uF cap in series and measure
with an oscope across the capacitor or inductance. At the resonate
frequency of the LC network, there wil be a spike or peak. Take this
frequency and use the L= 1/(4*pi^2*F^2*C) equation and it will give the
inductance. Then use the torriod or rod equation and find the permeability.
Also, the permeability will change with frequency - so you will end up with
a frequency versus perm curve, and also current effects the perm. There
are a lot of things to take into account and these are only a few.

There really is no "ferrite' resonate frequency but the inductor you are
making will have a resonate frequency. The distributive capacitance
is what creates this SRF.

Hope this helps some.

v/r Ken Carrigan

PS - capacitors also act like inductors after their SRF is reached. The
leads have about 1nH per inch - so you can calculate the typical SRF
for caps.