Re: Bellocq Water Pump

Dusty Rhodes ( dusty1@sat.net )
Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:39:55 -0600

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Hi Folks,
Got me to wondering if you took one of these pumps and pumped water up a
hill, say about 150 ft. high to a holding tank. Then run a small
diameter line back down the hill and put a small water turbine at the
bottom to charge some batteries to run the little motor that's over
there beating on the pipe how you would come out. I've got the perfect
place to try this right here on my property in East Tx.
Is $7000 really the price of this thing? I wonder if the solar panels
are what is driving up the cost. The little hammer and motor can't be
the cause, surely. Development costs I guess.
Well looks like another project to begin. Thanks for the info.

Dusty

Cliff Proctor wrote:

> Hi I'm in Victoria BC,
> Did you get the E-mail address of the Pascoe guy.
> The energy is 70 ft =95 10#/gal=95 2gal/min=3D1400 ft #/min/
> 1 hp =3D 746 W
> 1 ft#/sec=3D1.36 W
> 1400ft#/min=3D1400/60 ft#/sec=3D1400/60=951.36 W=3D 31 W=3D31/746 hp=3D=
1/20th hp
> The average rate of urination would be in the order of 2 to 3 gal per
> min.!!
>
> The interesting question is what is the pressure of the output.
>
>
>>
>
> Halls wrote:
>
>> Thought I'd share my trip to the library with you guys. Anyone find
>> power
>> requirements for this pump?
>>
>> The following is from "The Calgary Herald" Oct10, 1989
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> "Special pump pushes more than profits"
>> by Richard Bruner (Christian Science Monitor)
>>
>> TUCSON, Ariz -- Juan Pascoe is a retired United Nations
>> development
>> specialist who not only has found a solution to water problems of
>> the
>> world's poor rural areas, but has helped put together a Tucson
>> corporation
>> to make a lot of money in the process.
>>
>> Pascoe's black eyes blaze with excitement when he talks about a
>> new pump
>> that will push water out of the ground at the rate of two gallons a
>> minute,
>> using a one-fifth horsepower motor that derives it's energy from
>> four solar
>> panels.
>>
>> "It's a godsend," he says.
>> Pascoe is the president of a Tucson company that will
>> manufacture and
>> market the new pump.
>>
>> Bentley's pump uses a motor that would barely drive a sewing
>> machine.
>> But its work is very limited. All it needs to do is send sonic
>> waves down
>> the well pipe to a valved pumping unit at the well's bottom. The
>> unit picks
>> up the waves and drives its piston up and down. This gushes a whole
>> column
>> of water up the pipe.
>>
>> None of this takes much energy. Pascoe points out. Only enough
>> to make
>> some noise down a pipe.
>>
>> Bentley also has invented a second type of pump, one that slides
>> an
>> electric charge down a black well pipe. The entire pipe becomes
>> like a
>> capacitor of a discharge system on an electronic ignition. It
>> employs its
>> valve system to push the column of water or oil to the surface.
>>
>> Pascoe discovered Bentley in the mountains near Ruidoso. N.M..
>> were he
>> was living a quiet existence despite the 34 patents in his name.
>> With Allyn
>> Spence, an anthropologist with the Office of Arid Land Studies at
>> the
>> University of Arizona. Pascoe put together a company called
>> Appropriate
>> Technology Development Inc.
>>
>> Not long after forming the company, Pascoe and Spence took a
>> prototype
>> pump to the Navajo reservation.
>>
>> "We put it in an abandoned well, connected it to four solar
>> panels, and
>> it started to bring up water." says Pascoe.
>> "The Navajos came around. The women especially were enchanted.
>> They
>> said, "The sun is bringing out the water from the ground?
>> Impossible."
>>
>> For Pascoe, the experience on the Navajo reservation was
>> confirmation of
>> his hope that the pump might have worldwide uses.
>> "Knowing what I know about the needs of the developing world
>> rural
>> people without water or with very little water... I know one of the
>> reasons
>> they cannot use traditional pumping gear is because they don't have
>> electricity or it is too expensive. Now here is a pump that the
>> deeper you
>> go the more efficient it is. You can go 4,000 feet and bring water
>> up with
>> a little motor which draws practically no electricity."
>>
>> The Bentley pumps are also much less expensive to purchase and
>> maintain
>> other water pumping technologies. The smaller pumps will replace
>> $20,000 US
>> windmills on the Navajo reservation at an initial per pump cost of
>> $7,000.
>>
>> The impact of such savings could be profound. The United States
>>
>> Department of Agriculture has concluded that the biggest expense for
>> farmers
>> who experienced serious drought in the last two years is the cost of
>> pumping
>> water. That cost has driven more farmers into bankruptcy than any
>> other
>> single factor.
>>
>> Appropriate Technology Development will work with China to have
>> a joint
>> venture manufacturing operation in Shanghai. And it also will start
>> making
>> pumps in Tucson sometime soon.
>>
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Hi Folks,
Got me to wondering if you took one of these pumps and pumped waterup a hill, say about 150 ft. high to a holding tank. Then run a small dia=meterline back down the hill and put a small water turbine at the bottom tocharge some batteries to run the little motor that's over there beatingon the pipe how you would come out. I've got the perfect place to try thi=sright here on my property in East Tx.
Is $7000 really the price of this thing? I wonder if the solar panelsare what is driving up the cost. The little hammer and motor can't be thecause, surely. Development costs I guess.
Well looks like another project to begin. Thanks for the info.

Dusty

Cliff Proctor wrote:

Hi I'm in Victoria BC,=
Did you get the E-mail address of the Pasc=oeguy.
The energy is 70 ft =95 10#/gal=95 2gal/mi=n=3D1400ft #/min/
1 hp =3D 746 W
1 ft#/sec=3D1.36 W
1400ft#/min=3D1400/60 ft#/sec=3D1400/60=95=1.36 W=3D31 W=3D31/746 hp=3D1/20th hp
The average rate of urination would be inthe order of 2 to 3 gal per min.!!

The interesting question is what is the pre=ssureof the output.
 

 
Halls wrote:
Thought I='d sharemy trip to the library with you guys.  Anyone find power
requirements for this pump?

The following is from "The Cal=garyHerald" Oct10, 1989
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"Special pump pushes more tha=nprofits"
by Richard Bruner (Christian =ScienceMonitor)

    TUCSON, Ari=z-- Juan Pascoe is a retired United Nations development
specialist who not only has f=ounda solution to water problems of the
world's poor rural areas, but= hashelped put together a Tucson corporation
to make a lot of money in the= process.

    Pascoe's bl=ackeyes blaze with excitement when he talks about a new pump
that will push water out of t=heground at the rate of two gallons a minute,
using a one-fifth horsepower =motorthat derives it's energy from four solar
panels.

    "It's a god=send,"he says.
    Pascoe is =thepresident of a Tucson company that will manufacture and
market the new pump.

    Bentley's p=umpuses a motor that would barely drive a sewing machine.
But its work is very limited.= All it needs to do is send sonic waves down
the well pipe to a valved pum=pingunit at the well's bottom.  The unit picks
up the waves and drives its p=istonup and down.  This gushes a whole column
of water up the pipe.<=/FONT>

    None of thi=stakes much energy.  Pascoe points out.  Only enough to make
some noise down a pipe.

    Bentley als=ohas invented a second type of pump, one that slides an
electric charge down a black =wellpipe.  The entire pipe becomes like a
capacitor of a discharge syst=emon an electronic ignition.  It employs its
valve system to push the colu=mnof water or oil to the surface.

    Pascoe disc=overedBentley in the mountains near Ruidoso. N.M.. were he
was living a quiet existence =despitethe 34 patents in his name.  With Allyn
Spence, an anthropologist wit=hthe Office of Arid Land Studies at the
University of Arizona.  =Pascoeput together a company called Appropriate
Technology Development Inc.

    Not long af=terforming the company, Pascoe and Spence took a prototype
pump to the Navajo reservatio=n.

    "We put it =inan abandoned well, connected it to four solar panels, and
it started to bring up water.="says Pascoe.
    "The Navaj=oscame around.  The women especially were enchanted.  They=
said, "The sun is bringing ou=tthe water from the ground? Impossible."

    For Pascoe,= theexperience on the Navajo reservation was confirmation of
his hope that the pump might =haveworldwide uses.
    "Knowing w=hatI know about the needs of the developing world rural
people without water or with =verylittle water... I know one of the reasons
they cannot use traditional p=umpinggear is because they don't have
electricity or it is too expe=nsive. Now here is a pump that the deeper you
go the more efficient it is.&=nbsp;You can go 4,000 feet and bring water up with
a little motor which draws pr=acticallyno electricity."

    The Bentley= pumpsare also much less expensive to purchase and maintain
other water pumping technolog=ies. The smaller pumps will replace $20,000 US
windmills on the Navajo reser=vationat an initial per pump cost of $7,000.

    The impact =ofsuch savings could be profound.  The United States
Department of Agriculture has= concludedthat the biggest expense for farmers
who experienced serious droug=htin the last two years is the cost of pumping
water.  That cost has dr=ivenmore farmers into bankruptcy than any other
single factor.

    Appropriate= TechnologyDevelopment will work with China to have a joint
venture manufacturing operati=onin Shanghai.  And it also will start making
pumps in Tucson sometime soon=..

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