Re: Bellocq Water Pump

Bob Paddock ( bpaddock@csonline.net )
Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:19:50 -0500

>If anyone has made a Bellocq water pump can they get in touch and tell me
>their experiences with one. I'm going to make one in the next few weeks so
>if there is anything you think is worth a mention then please mention it.

Don't know if you've seen the Bellocq info on my web page or
not? http://www.biogate.com/bpaddock/

Any way here are a couple of comments people have had about
the info:

Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:29:31 -0400
From: Jim Farrer <jfarrer@erols.com>
Subject: Sucking water up more than 33 feet.

Suggested mode of operation: With a standing
wave in the pipe, would we not get a
vibration, maximum at the center (like a jump
rope) where the *diameter* of the pipe is
vibrating. If smaller in diameter, the
volume of the pipe decreases, and water is
forced out the top because of the closed
valve at the bottom. When the pipe diameter
increases, the volume increases, and
pressure decreases. This opens the valve at
the bottom, and water rushes in. However,
some water from the top will fall back down;
thus the increase in efficiency if the top
end of the pipe also has a valve.

Jim Farrer

From: "Danny L. Newton" <dnewton@multipro.com>
Subject: Compression Wave makes sense to me
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:13:25 -0600

It would be interesting to see if there is an interaction between the
water and the pipe that contains the water. Theoretically, a compression
wave would be somewhat attenuated or modified by the elastic
characteristics of the pipe. Thus a metal pipe and a plastic ABS or other
plastic pipe might produce a noticeable difference in efficiency due to the
participation of the well casing in the pumping effect. I predict higher
efficiency with the steel pipe.

A compression wave pump working on a naked pipe might work differently
than a pipe that was constrained by the weight of the earth around it. It
has been known for many years that compression waves travel through piles
made of wood, stee or concrete. The only problem is that the compression
wave hits the bottom end of the pile and returns to the point of impact as
a tension wave. This tension wave would easily break a concrete pile if it
were not reinforced with steel. Familiarity with the pile driving
phenomenon makes it very easy to visualize how a foot valve could be sucked
upward plus the contents under it when the wave hits the bottom and returns
to the source.

Another water pumping method that is not particularly interesting to
those who demand large volumes is air injection. By injecting air part of
the way or even all of the way down a pipe filled with water, the density
of the water is altered and moves up. The slight rise in the water level
can be enough to take off the mixture of air and water and recovered in
another container. Air compressors are required and the depth of the
injection is limited to the pressure of the compressor. 60 psi would let
you inject air at 138 feet.

Danny L. Newton
dnewton@multipro.com

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