Re: The Unified Research Foundation of Alternative Physics

John Berry ( antigrav@ihug.co.nz )
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:38:19 +1300

Ken Carrigan wrote:

> Hi John, et all....
> I have been quite the last few weeks reading/deleting much of the "time"
> stuff
> and other 'psydo' science stuff. I did belong to Jerry's little research
> group of
> 10 of Cliffs machine and all of us independantly research and experimented
> with
> his claims to verify them. Jerry stated the outcome of that about a month
> or so
> ago on here... and since then... I think we (this group) are maybe a
> 'little'
> discouraged about 'overunity' claims.

Well I am hoping the group can be large enough, 10 or 20 is all right but I
can't see why there can't be 200 members, unless of course no one is willing to
put anything to a joint effort, I fully believe that Free Energy has come and
gone many many times, I believe that the technology has existed and that every
few years it come about again. But it needs to be grasped.
Who can say for sure that hummel didn't have a working device recently?
What about mianto magnetic motor?
Joe Cell?
Hutsionson Effect?
Joseph Carter and a many others, these things have not been properly researched.

> This "URF" group, to me, seems like
> just another "keelynet" discussion/research/experimental group... and I'm
> not
> really seeing the point of belonging to it.

Well the idea is that there are no large groups that do this, it is meant to be
more than a mere small experimentation group, It is intended to become very
large, There are enough people in theory but will they join, only the people who
want it can make it work, I can't you can't but together we can make this thing
work rather than waste out time talking, The word Unified is meant to indicate
that it is intended to be THE group for alternative physics.

But if too many people have the image that you do and it does not grow large
enough then it will be another small group, but I would say that the word
discussion is not intended to be descriptive of this group, The Unified Research
Foundation of Alternative Physics is hoped to become the authority of the these
sciences (I can't make that happen only you reading this can do that), There are
businesses such as Zenergy and there are things about Tesla but this is hoped to
be truly professional in approach, On the level of a conventional physics
research experimentation group.

> I myself, have been
> experimenting and
> hypothysising on several projects... sonoluminescence (works), extracting
> energy out of dynamic perminate magnets, vortex and violant stirring of
> water
> with catalyst to obtain splitting of water into hydrogen/oxygen, and finally
> a simple
> an EMHD generator just to generate some HV static. All of which are not
> even
> close to "overunity". Oh, also trying John Bendini's Telsa switch.. with
> 66,000uf
> caps... and not working, of course!

That is good and I have experiments on the side that I will not involve the
group in but you see lone experimentation has grown a long list of people who
have it seems succeeded but there has been no professional group to reattach
their claims, to follow them up and back them up if willing, because this group
is made up of YOU and the leaded is a matter of voting it is also clear we don't
have any evil hidden plan to squash Free Energy so the inventor will trust us.

>
>
> So this new research group? Why should I join? Keelynet is the place I've
> shared
> info on.

This is not another KeelyNet, KeelyNet is like a loud noisy library with people
learning keeping up to date talking but there is no lab to construct the stuff,
This is the other half, the part that leads to action, Why should you join? Well
you should realize that unless your quite sceptical the lone inventor has
succeeded already many times but that failed to translate into Free Energy and
Antigravity for everyone, Do you think that they have all been lying, If you do
I'm amazed your in this field otherwise you know that people have got results so
that the tech is not what is needed but a co-ordinated methodical approach is
needed to turn up through it all and see what was working and what didn't.
If you do realize that it has come and gone then you should realize that
something needs to be done different to make it work, the random individual
scattered approach is not working.

John Berry

> . and if there is a "claim" of overunity that someone posts... I
> would like
> to be on Jerry's "PROVE IT" team.... I've got all kinds of test intruments
> to check
> out claims... but nothing to date pans out... on Keelynet. Still trying
> though...
> I think permanate magnetics (from equations and physical laws) can be
> manipulated
> somehow.. to produce "work" as the have a totally FREE Static magnetic
> fields
> ..just need to get it dynamic and tap it off!
>
> v/r Ken Carrigan
>
> >Ok, We've got 7 now offical members of the "Unified Research Foundation
> >of Alternative Physics"
> >
> >John Berry
> >Marinus Berghuis
> >Nigel Howie
> >Nick Field
> >Thomas Mccoy
> >Dusy Rhodes
> >Manfred Boller
> >
> >All who are willing to put in something wheather it be time, money,
> >labor etc...
> >Who are not afraid of action, If any this does not describe any of you
> >then please tell me, You don't have to put anything in but money, or
> >anything in but labor or time, but in the end we need people who are
> >going to make things happen, people of action.
> >These people I understand are all willing to do just that, who else will
> >join us?
> >
> >Seven can work fine but it's still a long way from the number that I
> >would expect would be willing to put effort into a unified group, It is
> >not the revolutionary step that is needed though it is just the very
> >start.
> >
> >
> >John Berry
> >
> >
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