This was in reference to a comment by Horace Heffner on vortex about the
importance of waveforms, it is A VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION which I
neglected to mention. Here is Horaces' post;
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Yes, very useful to find a cheap instrument that works. But does it
really? Cheap volt/amp meters give good results with sine wave power.
The important test is when the power factor is very low and eradic.
Have anything wild and wooley around to measure Scott?
Regards - Horace Heffner
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My response about the 'apparent O/U' transformer' from my DeVry days;
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With regard to Scott Little's post about measuring power using utility
wattmeters, you make a great point, the waveform is probably the most
important single factor.
I remember at DeVry one of our teachers showed us a stepup transformer,
don't recall the exact details, but it was something like a 10:100 turns
ratio.
When you put in 1 volt, you got 1000 volts on the output. That should
be only 100 volts (1 X 100 = 100) and he challenged us to figure out how
to do it.
Afer much discussion, we couldn't see how you could get such a voltage
increase with that kind of turns ratio, it SHOULD be 1000 turns on the
secondary. (You know I was worked up about it!!)
The next day, he explained it, saying that the fall time of a square
wave could transfer energy into a circuit much faster if it didn't have
a long ramp.
Power must be consistently average out over time, not charging up with
feeble currents, then discharging with one lightning burst.
He also said if you could make a square wave that collapsed almost
instantly, you could have incredible power devices, not overunity, but
able to transfer large amounts of energy over many repetitive short time
periods (per cycle).
I think some of the free energy devices that have been 'anomalous' might
have used this to fool the inventor into thinking there was POWER, where
there were only many short bursts that simply averaged out, OVER TIME,
to less than the power provided to the circuit.
One case in point is Lee Trippetts TOD (Trippett Overunity Device)...it
was purely experimental but seemed to be producing overunity.
Lee had been experimenting with MOSfets and came up with a circuit which
appeared to be true overunity, yet it would not power itself or any
appreciable load.
He shared it in a file with us at KeelyNet and those who built it also
found similar anomalies. Being the practical fellow he is, Lee couldn't
believe it was true overunity, based simply on the measurements and
calculations, so he took it to a local college to let one of the
electronics teachers examine it, he too was puzzled.
Finally, Lee contacted Walter Rosenthal and drove to California to let
him test it. Walter has a very pricey set of power measuring devices
(about $30,000 worth last time I heard) and is a most competent and
respected engineer. He found that the circuit was producing many very
high voltage spikes which in a sampling multimeter gave the impression
of being overunity.
As our 'resident skeptic' Don Lancaster is fond of saying, you
CAN'T MEASURE POWER WITH A MULTIMETER AND AN OSCOPE.
It was not anywhere near UNITY and Lee immediately posted a notice to
that effect, cause he's just that kind of a guy, no scams though I know
some who would have run with this, starting up a company and selling all
kinds of BS schemes.
Thanks, Horace for bringing up that critical point!!!!
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